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Old 02-Nov-2006, 13:19   #1
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UPS Battery for 996 bad idea?
Has anyone tried this out?

working in IT i recent took a APC 1400 UPS apart as its batteries had failed. Upon looking at the battery i noticed that

A:- it will almost fit into the battery case on a 1999 996 (only the height of it is slight taller the x and z are all smaller)

b:- lead battery sealed

c:- 12v 17ah

Would it be a bad thing to use something like this as a spare battery for the bike, as mine is having a hard time starting in this cold weather?

its a gp 12170

i guess it wasnt desinged for automotive damage (shaking and bouncing around)

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Old 02-Nov-2006, 13:35   #2
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If its a sealed battery, the chances are its a gel pack and would withstand vibration ok ...
BUT !!!!
it would definitely NOT be rated for a high starting curent which any automotive use will need
'Maintenance' batteries are not suitable for any automotive application because of this.
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Old 02-Nov-2006, 13:43   #3
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cheers for the reply.

It was just a mad idea as i need to purchase some replacement batteries for the UPS.

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Old 02-Nov-2006, 16:23   #4
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Can almost certainly say it won't work, as Phil says the cold cranking current will kill it DEAD very quickly.
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Old 03-Nov-2006, 20:42   #5
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Why would it kill it dead ?
The duke battery is rated as 16ah as standard ?!!
Most battery terminals and internals can withstand the short cct current, which is quite close to your starting current ?!!
Ask yourself what size the fuse is on the positive of the battery on your bike and that will give you some idea.
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Old 04-Nov-2006, 12:56   #6
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I used two Yuasa UPS batteries as slaves to run the starter on my race car. No starter on the GSX-R engine to save weight so we linked 2 in series and ran a 12v starter at 24v. We needed the grunt as we where turning the engine over via a nut on the crankshaft. Worked fine for the 4 years we where running the car. Can't comment on the vibes though.

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I work for a UPS manufacturer and have used UPS batteries on cars and bikes with no major problems, although life and performance depends on the design of the battery. Although the Ah capacity may be the same some batteries are designed to be float charged for a long period, followed by a steady discharge (this is the type of battery used in UPS). Other types are designed to sit with no charge for a time, a sudden massive discharge then high current recharge (this type is used in vehicles).

It makes me wince when I see people paying £90-100 for a 12v 17Ah battery for a bike when £100 will get me a 160Ah UPS battery and a 12v 17Ah battery is about £20! (OK, we buy thousands of them a year... but you see what I mean).
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I work for a UPS manufacturer and have used UPS batteries on cars and bikes with no major problems, although life and performance depends on the design of the battery. Although the Ah capacity may be the same some batteries are designed to be float charged for a long period, followed by a steady discharge (this is the type of battery used in UPS). Other types are designed to sit with no charge for a time, a sudden massive discharge then high current recharge (this type is used in vehicles).

It makes me wince when I see people paying £90-100 for a 12v 17Ah battery for a bike when £100 will get me a 160Ah UPS battery and a 12v 17Ah battery is about £20! (OK, we buy thousands of them a year... but you see what I mean).

I will soon need some new UPS' as I am moving out of my spare room and into a proper office
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Old 05-Nov-2006, 22:54   #9
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U2U me your email and I'll send you info on AEG UPS. Mucho good price for DSC members!
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