Anyone on here do car trackdays?

Ray · 02-Feb-2005, 14:47

If so what's yer weapon of choice?

I'd be interested to know if on the same track you lap faster in the car or on a bike. If you have done the same track on bike and car please say which make/model of bike & Car.

Ray.

PS the idea is not to pour petrol on the bike versus car flame war!! just curious, to quote Mr W.

neilkeogh · 02-Feb-2005, 16:56

Without doubt matey I'd use the family Volvo S80 that would frighten the carp out of all and sundry!!!!!!!!!

misterpink · 03-Feb-2005, 14:14

lotus elise at Spa - last year, would scare the pants off me on a bike, but hey thats worth a go. The track is phenomenal, spun the elise 3 times in the day as it was the slowest out there - went with a bunch of porsche and BMW M3's - so had to reeeaaalyy push in the corners. Spinning at the top of eau rouge (about 95mph) was interesting to say the least. If you get the chance Spa is fantastic - you can see why people(racers) rate it so highly.

Martin Dower · 03-Feb-2005, 14:24

*ding*

I have a modified Lotus Elise Sport 160 just for track days. It runs cut slicks and 400/500lbs springs on 2-way Racing Dynamics dampers plus race brakes, geo and harnesses. I do a lot of UK and European track days including Spa (7 visits), Nurburgring (5), Zandvoort, Folembray, Croix, Silverstone, Snett, Cadwell, Oulton, Goodwood, Brands, Donny etc...

The only time I have compared performance is at the ring where the car is *much* faster round the corners (by a huge margin) but get murdered on the straights.

I will also be racing a BMW in the UK Kumho series this year. The BMW is 5 seconds slower a lap round Brands (55 secs in the Lotus, 1 min in the BMW).

I would say it would take a fast bike and a good rider who knows the circuit well to lap quicker on a bike than the Lotus.

ps. Misterpink: are you a member of SELOC?

Felix · 03-Feb-2005, 14:51

If you look at club racing times for motorbikes around Brands Indy, you'll see that any half decent club racers is under the 55 second mark, even on a 250!

beancounter · 03-Feb-2005, 15:13

So - a half decent club racer on a 250 race bike

That would be a fast bike, good rider with a knowledge of the circuit then ?

Felix · 03-Feb-2005, 15:25

Not necessarily, depends on your point of reference. If you're doing car track days in a tricked up Lotus, I'd imagine your point of reference is quite advanced.

As Ray said, not looking to spark a bike vs car debate.

ath748 · 03-Feb-2005, 15:35

But to help you, I did Brands on my very first time at a track day on my 748S, after having only owned the bike for 4 months, and I still managed to get round in 1min 2 secs or so. That was an early session too, before I got to know the circuit. Not trying to show off, just disagree with Martin Dower's last point. S'all.

ak47 · 03-Feb-2005, 15:45

55 secs dower?????? in your car???
I'd expect better than that.

Either way, most/all trackdays the companies are not insured for people to be timing their laps so this is all guess work i'd imagine.

ak47 · 03-Feb-2005, 15:54

oh no I get it
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02-Feb-2005, 16:56	#2
neilkeogh Registered Forum User 500SD Posts: 508 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St Leonards on Sea Mood: What's going on?? Without doubt matey I'd use the family Volvo S80 that would frighten the carp out of all and sundry!!!!!!!!! Reply

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Felix Registered Forum User Ducati Meccanica Posts: 2,467 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Yorkshire Mood: Is 112 dB loud enough?? What?? If you look at club racing times for motorbikes around Brands Indy, you'll see that any half decent club racers is under the 55 second mark, even on a 250! Reply

03-Feb-2005, 15:13	#6
beancounter Registered Forum User Big Twin Posts: 1,513 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South Beds Mood: Black and grey (and a bit of red) So - a half decent club racer on a 250 race bike That would be a fast bike, good rider with a knowledge of the circuit then ? Reply

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Felix Registered Forum User Ducati Meccanica Posts: 2,467 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Yorkshire Mood: Is 112 dB loud enough?? What?? Not necessarily, depends on your point of reference. If you're doing car track days in a tricked up Lotus, I'd imagine your point of reference is quite advanced. As Ray said, not looking to spark a bike vs car debate. Reply

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ak47 Registered Forum User Big Twin Bikes: KTM Arsey Ocho Posts: 1,105 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: far out.... Mood: retiring 55 secs dower?????? in your car??? I'd expect better than that. Either way, most/all trackdays the companies are not insured for people to be timing their laps so this is all guess work i'd imagine. Reply

03-Feb-2005, 15:54	#10
ak47 Registered Forum User Big Twin Bikes: KTM Arsey Ocho Posts: 1,105 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: far out.... Mood: retiring oh no I get it 1 elephant 2 elephant 3 elephant 4 elephant 5 elephant.........54 elephant 55 elep Reply