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[ericthered40]

what you think about Carl Foggy slamming old git Franky, saying his no good on the brakes any more, I say hes a Fu***ing site better than he is now. I don’t like it when he picks on the old man, He don’t deserve it.

[NBs996]

I not expert enough to agree or disagree with Fog's comments about another riders ability, but you don't have to better than someone to criticise them. If that was the case then pretty much every sports coach would be out of a job!

Haven't seen this piece about what Foggy says, but from the chat, it sounds to me like he wasn't being too constructive?

[ericthered40]

Foggy said that Franky was finished as a contender now and that he couldn’t pass anyone on the brakes. But he is still out there taking a sixth (Fifth) place in the second race. on a new bike at the first round of the year. I just think it was a bit harsh when Foggy hasn’t been out in the pack for years and Franky, s been there all the time entertaining.
I’ve always been a Foggy fan but just mite be a touch of envy in this bit of coaching.
Fog’s not he’s coach Just his old racing adversary just can't see way he can’t say well done just for still being out there showing just how good you can be a forty year old.
sorry bit p**ed last night

[Edited on 4-3-2005 by ericthered40]

[ziggi]

I think you'll find he took 5th - passing many riders on the brakes to do so

[bradders]

wasnt he talking about winning the championship? Do you think frankie is as aggressive as vermulen for example?

I think this is the comparison he was making - altho it wasnt very flattering and really said the old man shouldnt be there any more!

[Totto]

Never did listen to Foggy , so not gonna start now

[FiscusFish]

Was it bought up at the AGM about Fogarty still being Honorary President?

Darren

[Jools]

Foggy took all his World Championships when I had other things occupying my time, so I didn't really take much notice of racing then. So, I never got to form my own opinion of Foggy as a racer, except that to win as many championships as he did, he must've been a bit good on a bike.

So my main impression is of Foggy as he is now, and I have to say I find it rather sad that he sees fit to slam today's racers with such monotonous regularity.

Surely he's got nothing to prove?

I think the mark of a true champion is to bow out at the top of your game, even if forced through injury, then offer support and encouragement to people who are still racing. That way, the public perception is that you're magnanimous, big hearted and an iconic father figure to the sport. A legendary ambassador who gives the sport a great public image.

It's all to easy to come across as a mean spirited, spiteful, whining little has been.

[ziggi]

I can understand what Fogarty is doing - he is mentally comparing himself to Frankie. He was one of his main competitors in his years at WSB and probably looks on Frankie as a benchmark as to where he would be himself if he was still racing.

Frankie did well to get 5th at Qatar with a new bike. I wonder if Fogarty can see just how good he still is and is a little envious of it.

[TP]

There's a much simpler answer to all of this and why Foggy says stuff like that, but I dare not post it.