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[Lily]

ok, this doesn't sound good!!!

my technique usually involves full throttle until braking point, hit brakes full force, clutch in whack it down a one or more, clutch out, brakes off and go

how the hell am i supposed to blip the throttle while i am full on the brakes. I may well use two finger braking, but the forward force on my arms is intense and i cant see how i could relax that enough to blip in between

[Lily]

on the road this sounds all well and good and i do do it when slowing down in a more sedate manner.

but on the track i do brake late and stomp the gears down which is why i am concerned!

[chris99]

Grip the tank with your knees!

Its not a massive fist full of throttle! Just a blip.

Maybe just try to be smoother untill you get the hang of it. You see people doing it on race bikes all the time and i bet they brake harder than you or me ever do.

[chris99]

Just let the clutch out slower. Kind of a manual slipper if you like

[Lily]

i am sure most people brake harder than i do, i am just struggling to see how i can blip the throttle when i am full on the brakes as i feel that i am being forced forward onto bars and not certain how i would twist it back even for a small blip.

maybe i am just being daft and it will be fine, but i know i have skipped the back end about even with the slipper and i am concerned it will be much worse.

I have not been riding that long and my skills are pretty much all self taught from just getting on the bike and riding.

[chris99]

same here! I think the only way is to just try stuff and take your time. I have never been on a track (yet!!) but i think that you still need to blip on the road. I even did it on my old R6 before i was t-boned and it was killed

I just use my first 2 fingers on the brakes and pinch the throttle tube with my thumb and third finger (i guess my little finger too as i have GP-Pro gloves and they are joined) The weight i do put through my hands is kind of taken in the bit of skin between my thumb and index finger. I dont really have that much weight through my hands as i read that you should still be able to flap your elbows about when you are doing it all properley.

Gripping the tank is hard for me though as when the r6 was written off my right femur was smashed and its not really that strong yet

[desmojen]

Chill bird, you'll be fine!
Blipping is icing on the cake, it doesn't really matter if you do it or not.
When you had your slipper, how often did you notice it really work? Think about it, not very often I'll warrant. The only times mine really earns it's keep is into the hairpin at Cadwell. Any other time, as suggested by Chris, feather the clutch out. Waving the back end is more caused by weight transfer than slipper or lack of it. Lack of slipper = chatter and or rear wheel lock up. Weeksy fell off because he locked his rear wheel through changing down too many gears for his speed, he spent too much of his ten dollars trying to brake later and forgot everything else.
You can hang on under braking with your knees/thighs, you shouldn't be gripping on with your arms, it'll just tire you out anyway.
It's like anything else, start slowly and work up to speed. Once you're used to it you'll do it without thinking (spending any of your ten dollars!), and you'll be waggling your rear tyre, hanging off, braking, blipping and looking where you're going all at once! Promise

[Jools]

You just grip the throttle as normal. Putting your forefinger and middle finger on the brake lever, leaves your other two fingers and your thumb wrapped around the throttle so you just give it a blip.

I actually find it's more like using your palm to blip it (no s******ing at the back).

The trick is to keep a constant pressure on the brake lever, when you first try it you'll squeeze the brake harder as you blip. Funnily enough it's easier when you're really hard on the brakes because then any irregular pressure is much less noticable.

Here's the thing though...you don't even need to be moving to practise. Just sit on the bike, put it in neutral, squeeze the brake and see if you can blip the throttle.

[Edited on 10-3-2005 by Jools]

[Lily]

hmmm

ok....

Jen, i have noticed it a few times, mostly after straights when i am in a high gear and want to know it down a few and the back end has skipped, but as you say this could be weight transfer as well.

Simillarly this is when i am braking really hard and feel like i am being thrust forward even if i try to take the pressure through legs.

I think the clutch release may be quite key to this for me rather than the actual blip as my usual technique kinda involves just releasing without much progression and I am usually spending about $15 thinking about getting off the brakes and round the corner!

I really think i should have a go on the bike before i get on track tbh even if its just to put my mind at rest and prove i am just being paranoid!

[chris99]

you will be fine. just take it easy