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Old 07-Apr-2005, 09:43
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perhaps I am glad that I don't work in a sector that is mission critical. - Obviously I only the inside information, so only get one side but for my sector our stuff is A1 and a hell of a lot better than the old clone stuff that they were getting.
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Old 07-Apr-2005, 09:45
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So JPM, how about buying those nice shiny HP's from me - go on at least let me quote you know it makes sense!!

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Old 07-Apr-2005, 10:04
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As he is in a support role I am not certain a major blue chip would let him randomly buy servers but you never know.

I am not certain who our strategic alliance is with these days but I am pretty certain its not Dell!
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Old 07-Apr-2005, 10:46
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Hi Lil, could you put me in contact with the person who could make the decision?
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Old 07-Apr-2005, 10:55
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hmmm, in the company I work for that decision is made pretty high up and in the states as far as I am aware.

I know we have a global procurement team somwhere but i think they deal with the head of IBM and Dell etc direct so not sure i could provide any help on this. sorry
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Old 07-Apr-2005, 11:04
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As Lily has said I have no decision, although our opinion is taken into consideration.

I only support 160 servers for the mail side of this for less than 1/2 of the mail users in the company. So lets say there's a good 400-500 servers just for mail, let alone the rest of the infrastructure.

Currently 41,000 seats on dell servers all going to HP servers, unfortunately dell still supply the desktops/laptops, and I'm not even going to start on those!!
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Old 07-Apr-2005, 11:17
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I would just like to say thanks to JPM, TP and others who have expressed confidence in HP servers. Keep buying them.

I work for HP as a Workforce Performance Consultant and I would rather like to keep working for them.

As a pre-merger HP employee, I would say that the company lost it's way under Carly Fiorina's leadership particularly in it's strategic approach to resellers. Also, as somebody who spent 10 years as a senior account engineer in support I am also dissapointed that HP support no longer has the respect it had. During the years that I worked in support we were consistently voted number one. If I was being cynical, it may be no accident that, post-merger, the reseller and support models veered sharply towards the Compaq model?

But, Carly has paid the price for her lack of competence and we now have a new CEO who has a much better track record (albeit with a 6 Bn company, not an 80 Bn one), is much more operationally focused and knows the storage business where we've been weak of late.

Of course Mark Hurd has a huge task ahead of him, with Wall St putting intense pressure on to break the company up, spin off the printer business and slash operating costs (read organisational redesign and layoffs). Who knows, I might be one of the people laid off - after all I am 50 this year and therefore senile by definition.

However, HP was a truly great company and has the right genes to be a great company again. I would love to see this just to spite the naysayers - even if it turns out that I'm not part of that revival.

[Edited on 7-4-2005 by Jools]
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Old 07-Apr-2005, 11:22
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With global procurement deals from IBM and HP they will typically use resellers in the relevant countries to fullfill the clients needs. I would imagine that your UK procurement team/IT Director would be responsible for collaborating with the relevant manufacturer and reseller. We have high visibility with both IBM and HP and I am sure you could use us as a fullfillment house for your IT requirements.

No worries if you cant help - hate to miss out on 100+ server deal!!
All the best Stuart
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Old 07-Apr-2005, 11:29
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Stuart

We use far far far more than 100 servers. i am sat in a building with probably well in excess of a thousand right now!

I honestly have no real sight of procurement process but I am pretty sure if you are a big enough and well known reseller then we will work with you somewhere along the line.
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