Hi, One good place where racers are unlikely to attend is a Non-noisy day at Donington (or wherever else does it) as especially in the lower groups the bikes tend to be peoples road-going pride & joys. Another idea I started off with was track evening's. Shorter sessions & not too many you get tired or over eager. My very first trackday was with Ron Haslam, good starting point as you get instruction & closely monitored. Andy |