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Old 07-Sep-2005, 23:53
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His name was Hillel Slovak - the RHCP guitarist that died from a heroin overdose.

He was brilliant. They also had two drummers...
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Or Ian Curtis with Joy Division, he was responsible for their best work yet after him they moved on into areas they'ed probably never have gotten into. Few bands are brave enough to try different things and it can take one member leaving for them to do so.

Cor, Ian Curtis...talk about the dark side...but where did that voice come from? Can't have been from the spotty kid with the nylon shirts and the Farah's. And, as for those dance moves, what an earth was going on inside his head?


Great parallel with Syd Barrett / Pink Floyd BTW, Closer is one of my all-time favourite albums and, while New Order knocked out some pretty decent tunes over the years, I don't rate them as being in the same league as Joy Division,but ...some like the early stuff, some like the late stuff, some like all of it...you pays your money and you takes your choice . I think I'll go and cheer myself up with a quick blast of Twenty Four Hours ...music to cut your throat to par excellence!
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fishbowl, year after year.

Running over the same old ground, of how we found the same old fears ... wish you were here ...

Brilliant!!
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Old 08-Sep-2005, 00:52
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Gizmo! I never took you for a New York Dolls fan! Johnny Thunders my guitar hero and the only person I have ever bothered getting an autograph off. That band were responsible for a whole load of music that came later, Guns and Roses for one. Joy Division we sometimes cover Transmission in my band an absolute classic. As for John Peel he was a massive inspiration, we once many years ago did a gig with him and as an encore we played transmission and I can remember him at the side of the stage doing a brief Ian Curtis dance/shuffle with a grin on his face. Happy memories!
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Or Ian Curtis with Joy Division, he was responsible for their best work yet after him they moved on into areas they'ed probably never have gotten into. Few bands are brave enough to try different things and it can take one member leaving for them to do so.

Cor, Ian Curtis...talk about the dark side...but where did that voice come from? Can't have been from the spotty kid with the nylon shirts and the Farah's. And, as for those dance moves, what an earth was going on inside his head?


Great parallel with Syd Barrett / Pink Floyd BTW, Closer is one of my all-time favourite albums and, while New Order knocked out some pretty decent tunes over the years, I don't rate them as being in the same league as Joy Division,but ...some like the early stuff, some like the late stuff, some like all of it...you pays your money and you takes your choice . I think I'll go and cheer myself up with a quick blast of Twenty Four Hours ...music to cut your throat to par excellence!

i can stil recall when they first played on JP, wonderful. Curtis was a very deepressed guy, got to meet them once, they supported the Buzzcocks and i only went to see Joy Divission so was in bar afterwads whilst Buzzcocks played, they all wandered in and just stood at bar chatting to the 2 or 3 of us who were there to see them. Curtis was on a different planet, probably fuelled by speed but who knows. Unknown Pleasures is probably my favourite album but as i don't listen to old music much it rarely gets played. Compare that to what PF were doing at the same time......

New Order eneded up going the way of PF etc, same formula sound but at least they did diversify and were responsible for the introduction of dance music along with bands like A Certain Ratio. Still buy all their albums and quite like Waiting for the Sirens Call even though its just another New Order album. Add Factory records to my list of musical influences as well please
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Gizmo! I never took you for a New York Dolls fan! Johnny Thunders my guitar hero and the only person I have ever bothered getting an autograph off. That band were responsible for a whole load of music that came later, Guns and Roses for one. Joy Division we sometimes cover Transmission in my band an absolute classic. As for John Peel he was a massive inspiration, we once many years ago did a gig with him and as an encore we played transmission and I can remember him at the side of the stage doing a brief Ian Curtis dance/shuffle with a grin on his face. Happy memories!

Given a choive between crap UK prog rock in the early seventies and garage band stuff it was easy to get into the Dolls, they infuenced almost every decent guitar driven band. After that it was into the Ramones and Clash, you do any covers of them Martin??

Did you record the John Peel tribute night the BBC ran after he died?? Think its still sat on me Sky + box. He was the most inspirational DJ ever, always looking for new tunes and open to listening to anything, it opened my ears to a lot of stuff but more importanty changed my attitudes to music. I was working in US when he died and couldn't get a copy of the NME with the tribute , don't suppose anyone kept it did they??
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Old 08-Sep-2005, 10:37
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Neither have the NME or a recording of the tribute. Have covered a few Clash songs over the years and used to play the Ramones Blitzkreig Bop in another band. Used to cover the Dolls Jet Boy and Looking for a Kiss. Saw the Ramones but never saw The Clash. Was introduced to Floyd many years ago by a mates older brother who smoked funny smelling roll ups in the dark while listening to Dark side of the Moon. I still listen to them now but only the stuff before Roger Waters went his own way. Love 1970s Aerosmith before they started with all that polished radio friendly Love in an Elevator type stuff! Early REM likewise I saw them play in a Manchester club 20 odd years ago, I think Murmur was just about to be released at the time. Don't really listen to their later stuff, I think Monster was their last Album I liked. Velvet Underground we used to play a cover of Femme Fatale, they did some great tunes.

One of my old schoolmates dad was in business with Phil Mccintyre who used to be a promoter for a lot of bands in the 70s and 80s. We used to get on the guest list for any band we wanted to see which left us both with pretty wide ranging tastes in music. One night we would be stood at the front at a Jam gig and the next we would be watching some heavy metal band Ian Gillan or suchlike. Seen some truly terrible bands Magnum? Spider? Budgie? More? Saxon?!

Also some great bands that vanished into obscurity, Hoodogurus were an Aussie group who deserved to last a little longer than they did.

Gizmo I have included a nice pic of John Peel for you!
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Old 08-Sep-2005, 11:29
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Doh! Found I actually bought Audioslave Out of Exile a while back and never listened to it. Pretty good though!
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[I was working in US when he died and couldn't get a copy of the NME with the tribute , don't suppose anyone kept it did they?? [/quote]

I think i've got a copy somewhere,if i can find it i'll let you know,you can't keep it but i'll let you borrow it.

I met John at my first Glastonbury.I had listened to his show on the wednesday and he'd said he hated it when people shouted at him but did'nt come over and say hello.So when my mate and i saw him on the thursday evening,it was too good an opportunity to miss.We staggered over and intrduced ourselves and had a chat about what bands we were going to see,he insisted we see Lonnie Donegan.Lucky we did because he passed away about a year later.Top bloke,we even made him late for his radio show because he seemed genuinely interested in our opinions about certain bands.Sadly missed
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