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[fil2]

Originally posted by Bubbles

I`m not having a dig, just a bit of light hearted pi55 taking, but every art has its dis-advantages and weekness`s, for centuries this argument has been raging "which martial art is the Ultimate art"
Which is why UFC (Vale tudo) has grown into what is (IMHO) the Ultimate Fighting Art, No frills, no fancy hand movment`s, just a realisation that alot of techniques are un-economical and usless, so all the silly stuff is thrown out and what is left....WORKS.
Punching, Elbow strikes, kicking, kneeing and grappling, lets face it, any fight that last`s more then 10 seconds in the street, is going to the floor, so good grappling skill are needed.
Again though, be very careful when looking for this sort of mixed martial art, as most instructors have a bias towards one art, so you could get what is mostly Karate with a bit of jui justu thrown in.

Research is the key and If all else fails, Dedicated your life to to Martial Arts and study All of them and become the ULITMATE BADASS.

Street fight goes to grappling in about 3 seconds i think is the average unless the two have skills.........its all well and good knowing all this and that and quite frankly alot of it is obsolete and will never be used.....unless u mix in bad circles and not many do..they like to think they do.!..train because you love it and you want to learn.

The martial arts is about discipline training the mind and body, learning repsect for yourself and others and after training for a long time you realise the futilty of violence and how dangerous it can be to get caught up in a scrape.....
Its the reason the traditional arts have lasted they teach more than street fighting ! they have core and content .....

Sure the martial arts are born from violence and your are taught how to fight, buts that so you dont have to fight....

when you have skills u can read a situation very well and remove yourself from it....thats the essence of self defence....

People often ask me " do you ever use your martial arts "...like its a button u can switch on or off......as most who have trained for awhile will agree its a reflex a
natural response..............its why we cant play fight....and dont wanna get into a scrap...cos sum1 will get hurt.....and thats not the goal of a Martial artist.............

wtf..i gone off again.......

Tony if u r still reading lol............................let me know what you think lol...............

Phil


:P

[VanDaMauler]

Could`nt agree more mate.
But I like to look at it like this.

[Jools]

Originally posted by fil2
The martial arts is about discipline training the mind and body, learning repsect for yourself and others and after training for a long time you realise the futilty of violence and how dangerous it can be to get caught up in a scrape.....
Its the reason the traditional arts have lasted they teach more than street fighting ! they have core and content .....

Sure the martial arts are born from violence and your are taught how to fight, buts that so you dont have to fight....

when you have skills u can read a situation very well and remove yourself from it....thats the essence of self defence....

Phil


:P

That's one thing I have learned....

"What's the best form of self-defence?"

Not getting yourself in a position where you need to use it in the first place.

[VanDaMauler]

and there nothing wrong with getting on ya toes and legging it, if you are out numbered or out gunned.

Nothing worse then laying in A&E thinking "*****, I should`ve run"

My only problem is, I hate running....

[fil2]

Originally posted by Bubbles
and there nothing wrong with getting on ya toes and legging it, if you are out numbered or out gunned.

Nothing worse then laying in A&E thinking " <b>censored</b> , I should`ve run"

My only problem is, I hate running....

i love running if it prevents me or others getting hurt...........

" to know true peace one must be prepared for war "

" Someone Looking Trouble is no trouble for someone prepared for it "

the list goes on...........and no matter your training your experience violence hurts.............and gets you know where..

although at times i get the urge to walk down to the local youth haunts in the park where they smash the bottles and leave glass all over the playgorund where the little kids play ... and give em a lesson ..no dialogue just drop em flat spark the little shits out...............


but jeeeez it would be good........................but as the first bone crunched i know regret will follow.............then futilty then court then jail.............

And im not like that.......at time i wish i was..................

Phil

[Edited on 6-10-2005 by fil2]

[VanDaMauler]

Originally posted by fil2

i love running if it prevents me or others getting hurt...........

" to know true peace one must be prepared for war "

" Someone Looking Trouble is no trouble for someone prepared for it "

the list goes on...........and no matter your training your experience violence hurts.............and gets you know where..

although at times i get the urge to walk down to the local youth haunts in the park where they smash the bottles and leave glass all over the playgorund where the little kids play ... and give em a lesson ..no dialogue just drop em flat spark the little shits out...............


but jeeeez it would be good........................but as the first bone crunched i know regret will follow.............then futilty then court then jail.............

And im not like that.......at time i wish i was..................

Phil

[Edited on 6-10-2005 by fil2]

Yes Master Sensei.


Thats why I never leave home without my Equipment.

[fil2]

master sensei...??? wow thanks im sure that is meant in the best possible way.............:P

nice to see sum1 still reads them comics ...............

[Monty]

I'm with Glyn in all this-I could take the lot of you before you got within 20ft of me-a .44 magnum will give this kind of confidence-and yes before you ask I have fired one, they're bloody hard to shoot straight cause they are dam heavy-hence the 20 foot comment.
I also studied Win Chun style of Kung Foo, but that was over 30 years ago-it was the fashion then..........but I was a pretty good(county standard) runner back then.

John

[fil2]

Originally posted by Monty
I'm with Glyn in all this-I could take the lot of you before you got within 20ft of me-a .44 magnum will give this kind of confidence-and yes before you ask I have fired one, they're bloody hard to shoot straight cause they are dam heavy-hence the 20 foot comment.
I also studied Win Chun style of Kung Foo, but that was over 30 years ago-it was the fashion then..........but I was a pretty good(county standard) runner back then.

John

r u pleased to see me John or is that a magnum in your pocket.....................

[TP]

Well .. lots of replies on this. I'm not looking to be the next ninja, or even compete for that matter. Although I say that now but tend to be a bit competitive sometimes .... I've done the Aus Army's version of the 'one armed wombat' course (unarmed combat) and that was interesting. We did some armed stuff too, but I doubt I'll have an entrenching tool handy if anyone ever jumps me in the high street (again).

I want the fitness, the discipline and a bit of knowledge.

I'm going to check out some local schools/gyms/etc and see what I can come up with and take it from there. Thanks for all your help

[Edited on 6-10-2005 by TP]