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[NBs996]

Dead right butch, but that's only with new clocks.
2nd hand clocks already coded to another bike won't work no matter how many different coloured keys you've got!

Unless someone knows different????

[AK]

Originally posted by NBs996
Dead right butch, but that's only with new clocks.
2nd hand clocks already coded to another bike won't work no matter how many different coloured keys you've got!

Spot on young man.

I have spoken at length to Ducati on this during 2005.
All new bikes appear to be run on test, with red key, to activate coding. So if you have brand new bike, ask for red key NOT to be used.

At present, if you damage the clocks, they might not 'read' but might be activated enough internally to start the bike.
Worse case scenario, is to either then:
replace clocks (with new ones (bloddy expensive) or
get FIM chip (cheaper option, than new clocks)

Still working thru ideas, will let you know what happens

Alan

[phil_h]

Originally posted by AK and CK

Spot on young man.

I have spoken at length to Ducati on this during 2005.
All new bikes appear to be run on test, with red key, to activate coding. So if you have brand new bike, ask for red key NOT to be used.

At present, if you damage the clocks, they might not 'read' but might be activated enough internally to start the bike.
Worse case scenario, is to either then:
replace clocks (with new ones (bloddy expensive) or
get FIM chip (cheaper option, than new clocks)

Still working thru ideas, will let you know what happens

Alan

That sounds like a pretty solid picture Alan.
The essential element that worried me enough to post the question, is that it will stop us dead in our tracks at a race meeting.
Ducati will know all this of course, so if we find the right person to ask, we can hopefully get the factory-approved way of making our race bikes able to run without the clocks when this happens.
Eg - what to do if you dont know your immobiliser code cos you bought the bike for a song and it didnt have that nice little tag
Eg - how much 'matching kit' you have to have as a spare if it all goes pear-shaped ?
(I will happily organise/test/start-a-fund for a 'spare set' to be available to us all)

At the very least, we all (620 riders) know where we stand now.
Anyone know anyone useful

ps
I'm quite glad I have the 583 as well :P

[skidlids]

Why not just run a 1.6M ECU and relevant harness and get a chip programed to suit, legal in Desmo Due but not in Minitwins. then you could run a 748/916 Revcounter and not have to wory as much.

Flemse has just had it done to his 999 and I know it has also been done on a 998 which also runs the 5.9M ECU but without the immobiliser

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/xm....php?tid=27418

[ericthered40]

OK I have a red key with a small tag attached I take it this is the code number?

Dose this mean i can get any set of 620 clocks, IE monster, sport or multi
put them on the bike get them coded then use that set if the inevitable happens?

[butch890]

Surely if the doner clocks have never been run with the red key they will fit straight on.
Butch

[butch890]

Nuther thought,i have amate who is an electronics whizz prehaps i could get him to decode a set for use as spares for the use of all
Butch

[NBs996]

worth having a word with him butch, but as far as a can work out, the ecu won't demobilise until gets a signal from the clocks. So he'd have to take the code out the ecu also.

Could be wrong tho!

[butch890]

So what we need is a blank ecu then?
Butch

[NBs996]

I had a doc describing how the system worked and what talked to what, but I'll be buggered if can find it! Where's frank??!!

I think the easiest solution would be to try'n get hold of an unused set of clocks.