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[Rattler]

Originally posted by Scooter916

Fair piont, But hope is not in my nature. Especially when it comes to NE.
And to be honest I cant warrant having 2 bikes in the garage just in case NE offer us the chance of 2 grids. Sorry but there are better things to do with a racebike than leave it sat awaiting the full moon on jupiter.
:P

Not sure I agree - we had seperate grids for Cadwell, seperate for Brands and the entry forms suggest that we should get seperate grids for the rest of the races apart from Castle Combe. As Skids says, it is up to us to fill those grids with entries.

Castle Combe is a special case as its a much bigger event than the other UK races this year. That along with us not getting many riders out there and NE wanting to provide a spectacle to the the large crowd, means that a grid full of Ducatis meets the best requirements of New Era, the crowds and the timetable.

What would you do if you were New Era? You'd no doubt base your numbers on the actual number of DD riders who have lined up this year - not as many as we suggested!! This suggests that the DD can only provide just enough to fill one grid and in a packed program at CC !! - its a commercial decision based on, timings, revenue, spectator appeal etc, etc..... the average spectator at CC will not know the difference between the 620 and 583 bikes and would rather be watching 44 Dukes on full chat for 2 races than half full races of what seems to them to be the same bikes.

I see where the NE decision comes from, its up to us to get more bikes on the grids and ensure that the suggested seperate grids (indicated by the seperate listed races in the entry forms) are as full as possible for the rest of the DD races this year.

Whilst the circumstances aren't ideal, Castle Combe is a special track, with very few race meetings being held there and we will be part of a very special event there. Its a big event for CC, NE and will be for us - I'm really looking forward to it.

Tim

[Edited on 17-5-2006 by Rattler]

[Chris Wood]

What he said....

[Scooter916]

So did we lie to NE at the begining of the year to enable us to gain 2 grids or have we really lost that many people, From what I recall numbers in the reigon of 35B and 32A class bikes were touted these have not materialised obviously hence the single grid, shared grid(caddy) situation.
I still firmly belive that the DD series should be running at normal club rounds where ALL the DD`ers Get to race and get as much track time as possible, If that means missing out on playing second fiddle to the big boys at castle coombe and paying for the privelidge then so be it.
My point is that I WONT have 2 bikes sat in the garage just incase we get enough entries for me to run both.
Glyn

[CK]

Tim we know the entries were down at Cadwell - and Brands for various reasons (some NOT wanting to start too early at cadwell, and then some saving money for Assen by not doing Brands)

From the original list:
Cadwell had 8 missing from the 620's, of which 4 of those then competed at Brands, tho another 2 were missing (Geoff & Ali)

From the 583's at Cadwell there were 3 missing

Brands had 7 x 620's missing and 6 x 583's in total.

Over all, there are 4 out of the 28 from the 620's who havent yet taken part, and 0 out of 30 from the 583's yet to turn a wheel.

As Skids says, IF all those on the current points chart do want to enter the remaining races, then we only need 1 or poss 2 more 620 to join the others and we will have the amount to take up the grids as promised. The 583's are already accounted for most book in

[Rattler]

Originally posted by Scooter916
So did we lie to NE at the begining of the year to enable us to gain 2 grids or have we really lost that many people, From what I recall numbers in the reigon of 35B and 32A class bikes were touted these have not materialised obviously hence the single grid, shared grid(caddy) situation.
I still firmly belive that the DD series should be running at normal club rounds where ALL the DD`ers Get to race and get as much track time as possible, If that means missing out on playing second fiddle to the big boys at castle coombe and paying for the privelidge then so be it.
My point is that I WONT have 2 bikes sat in the garage just incase we get enough entries for me to run both.
Glyn

We said that we would put 25+ on each grid for all rounds, but we haven't done this so far.

If the DD races only ran at normal club rounds then there would be no Assen race (and this seemed to be quite popular - so I feel you might be in the minority here).

But you are entitled to your opinion on this obviously, all I am suggesting IMHO is that CC is not a typical event for the DD race series.

I hope we will get seperate grids and free practice at the rest of the DD rounds, but its typically based upon numbers entering - and we are a bit light on these at the moment.

Hence why I am entering a 620 and 583 at all the races that I can.

Tim

[fil2]

i dont see why we/anyone has to enter 2 bikes to buffer the grids.?...

its not practical from a timing / financial / and ****ing of others in the 2nd class you are entering / perspective..................

i for one am not going to enter 2 races purely to enable two grids............effectively subsidising those that are not racing enabling us to get two grids..........
if we get the numbers for two grids fine if not then we live with it.?

My main concern is not combined grids BUT practise as this is essentially more important to the race day for safety warm up reasons......

Phil

PS..on race day its all fogotten and we have a blinding time..remember that....



[Edited on 17-5-2006 by fil2]

[Scooter916]

Originally posted by Rattler

We said that we would put 25+ on each grid for all rounds, but we haven't done this so far.

If the DD races only ran at normal club rounds then there would be no Assen race (and this seemed to be quite popular - so I feel you might be in the minority here).

But you are entitled to your opinion on this obviously, all I am suggesting IMHO is that CC is not a typical event for the DD race series.

I hope we will get seperate grids and free practice at the rest of the DD rounds, but its typically based upon numbers entering - and we are a bit light on these at the moment.

Hence why I am entering a 620 and 583 at all the races that I can.

Tim

Miss read me there Tim
Assen is a different kettle of fish, and yes i agree that was a good round for the club as a whole as all who went got to race. Running at normal club rounds would have no impact on Assen as that was nothing to do with new era was it??
Although The grids may have had more people on them as a few decided to miss Brands to save for assen, but that is here nor there. IF my bike has not sold I WILL enter both classes obviously But back to the original thread.
MY 583 IS STILL FOR SALE

[Rattler]

Glyn - fair enough - in actual fact Jim Parker (of New Era and the ACU) was heavily involved in getting the international licence issues resolved for us for the Assen race - so indirectly its still influence.

Good luck with the sale - but it'd be good to see you in both 583 and 620 races.

Or does that mean that the scooter is up for grabs for the 620 winner now !!!!

Tim

[Scooter916]

Originally posted by Rattler


Or does that mean that the scooter is up for grabs for the 620 winner now !!!!

Tim

HMM next year Tim For sure........
To be honest i would probably after discusion put it up to the best newcomer next year....... New blood to the series etc.
Glyn

[skidlids]

As I mentioned in a email to somebody Yesterday and as Glyn has mentioned above, DD may be better off having 6 Championship rounds run at Club level (not Superclub) all with 2 races per meeting and from the 12 races 11 to count to the final championship standings.
Then also hopefully fit in a couple of Non Championship rounds but with decent prizes where DD could be invited to run at places like Assen and Castle Combe where there is limited grids.

Makes sense to me