Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > Dealing with yobs(The oldfashioned way)

[philthy]

Very interesting thread and I think many of us would either do the same, or would like to think we would do the same. I've had some ''interesting'' confrontations on one or two occassions and it's a great feeling to look back on over a few pints. By the way I'm no fighter, quite the opposite, but I and a few others felt at the time that the balance in a particular situation needed redressing and someone had to stand up and be counted. ( We did have the police on our side though but it was made plain to us that if we stepped outside the law that we forfeited our right to protection by the law )

However if you do allow your heart to rule your head and escalate a situation as Mav did then you also have to accept the possibility that they may return, possibly mob handed with knives or worse, firearms. They have the advantage in that they know where you live but you don't know where they come from.

What happens if you are out for the night and your wife/kids are on their own and the meatheads turn up? Forget the police as depending how busy they are you may not get a response for 30 or more minutes, if at all.

As for your confrontation Age, in my view you did the right thing by not winding your aggressor up any further. He could have stabbed you before you could react. It's not worth dying for a principle.

Mav I admire you for what you did and it seems to have worked out this time and doubtless your neighbours love you to bits but some guys locally did exactly the same, but in that case the lads went to the police and the guys ended up in prison.

Food for thought.

Phil

[madmav]

very true Philthy!
But LIVE by the sword and be prepaired to dye by it!!!!!!!!!!
all or nothing no half measures!

Maverick call the ball.......lol

[theoldbuzzard]

Isn't it remarkable that we have this thread going at the same time as the "profanity on the web site" thread. Although ancient I have a 12yr old son and a 9yr old daughter and both are taking an interest in bikes and bike racing. I am trying to bring them up as people who will respect others but find this being undermined by some on this site who think that their personal liberty over-rides my attempts.

I have taken my son to the Silverstone WSB round for several years, camping throughout he weekend. Last year was the first time we encountered any trouble, a bit too much booze had had it's effect on a couple of fellows resulting in a lot of shouted obscenaties and threats of violence (not to me or my son, but we were in the midst of it).

I have to say that I was slightly fearfull of a good kicking, but I did approach the culprits and told them that I wasn't happy with this conduct, particularly since they were frightening the s**t out of both me and my son.

I'm so pleased to say that their response was total and abject apology. To be honest I was quite shocked by their humility. Perhaps there are others on this site who could learn from this.................

[phoenix n max]

*whiffs the testosterone oozing from behind the door of this thread *


and runs away.....................

Actually was just wondering why none of the girlies had replied really

[weeksy2]

I'm baffled.... MAv... it's one thing to do this... but another altogether to tell a message board full of coppers you've given some teenager a good beating...

Confused.

[749er]

Originally Posted by weeksy2

I'm baffled.... MAv... it's one thing to do this... but another altogether to tell a message board full of coppers you've given some teenager a good beating...

Confused.

methinks that Mav might have just woken up with a Sue Ellen wig on to find Bobby Ewing is still alive and that the fracas did not really happen :-)

[madmav]

Originally Posted by 749er

methinks that Mav might have just woken up with a Sue Ellen wig on to find Bobby Ewing is still alive and that the fracas did not really happen :-)

Me thinks, that fact or fiction , and those who know me know!!
It's simple, did i whale the **** out of the thugs?
were they asked very nicely to move along YES
Were the police called by a neigbour YES
Did the police respond NO
was i supposed to say "nevermind" then lads you carry on being very disrespectfull NO

are the police going to read this then send Mi6 to my house NO
Can you get done for murder if there is no Body found??????????????

Steve I put it up on the board to see what people realy think!
and I'm now satisfied I did the right thing!

OH and who said they were teenagers

[749er]

Originally Posted by theoldbuzzard

I have to say that I was slightly fearfull of a good kicking, but I did approach the culprits and told them that I wasn't happy with this conduct, particularly since they were frightening the s**t out of both me and my son.

I'm so pleased to say that their response was total and abject apology. To be honest I was quite shocked by their humility. Perhaps there are others on this site who could learn from this.................

Some peope do respond to reason but some don't I am afraid. that is pretty much my experience, On one occassion I did get a wee bit of a kicking but I would rather that than watch him continue to abuse his girl friend. On two others, I got away with nothing physical happening.

I have never started a fight with anyone, and never would. I have always been calm and polite when suggesting someone ought to change their behaviour. On one occassion I just stood there and made sure the guy knew I was there so he could not get away with continueing to pull his girlfriend around like a sack of spuds. Eventually he walked off in the huff saying "you got all these white people staring at me now". I was with my girlie at the time.

I would not get involved over vandalism of property, but when it comes to people, like your son and daughter you have to stand up and say something. You should be very proud. I would be.

[jeff st4s]

Glad to see your gentle story has raised so much interest.
I still agree with with the fact you fronted up to the scum and hopefully they won't be around your way again.
If the wind is in the right direction, then nothing will come back to haunt you.
But I'm a great believer in what goes around comes around, so take care!

[antonye]

Originally Posted by theoldbuzzard

Isn't it remarkable that we have this thread going at the same time as the "profanity on the web site" thread. Although ancient I have a 12yr old son and a 9yr old daughter and both are taking an interest in bikes and bike racing. I am trying to bring them up as people who will respect others but find this being undermined by some on this site who think that their personal liberty over-rides my attempts.

Oo! That'll be me then!

Originally Posted by theoldbuzzard

I have to say that I was slightly fearfull of a good kicking, but I did approach the culprits and told them that I wasn't happy with this conduct, particularly since they were frightening the s**t out of both me and my son.

Ooops! Own goal there!

I rest my case.