Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > Techy, electrical type question - IR transmitter

Originally Posted by domski

I think your initial post was not really on topic either.

I can see how you think that people trying to go for lap times can be a pain, but I would think that they are mostly in fast groups. Anyone going in a fast group should know the score and in my opinion, they have no right to complain about people riding too fast, unless it's dangerous.

The fact that you do trackdays to enjoy them - what does that mean?

I do trackdays to enjoy them too.

I do racing to enjoy that as well.

Just because I'm a ****load faster than you, doesn't mean I'm reckless or upsetting anyone.

Nobody has ever complained about my riding on a trackday, even when I've been timed, I'm curteous and aware that there are people like yourself out there, and I ride accordingly.

Basically, you're so far wrong on every aspect of your argument, and you ****ed me off!

On or off topic, its relevant in thisinstance.

I couldn't care that you are faster than me Dom, nice display of ego though, good lad.

Well, its nice to know no one has ever complained about you.

And why should "fast group" riders be trusted to flaunt what are hard and fast "safety rules" ??

And how can quoting the rules be wrong ??

as for ****ing you off, tough ****, deal with it, your disregard for the way you should conduct yourself is out of order.

oh, and please find where I called you reckless ???

TP,

egg timers, mates on pit wall etc do not have you distracted or as focusssed in my opinion as a lap timer does, in fact even in the briefings you are warned not to do that either, No Limits threaten to confiscate watches, mobiles etc... its a safety issue, if they didn't think it was it wouldn'e be an issue would it ??

as for people trying lines, set up etc, well thats cool, thats all part of a tracday so don't see the relevance of that statement.

As far as i'm aware the UK CSS does not issue timings on levels 1 & 2, i've never been issued any, maybe that was because they don't run lap times in hours ... lol

[Felix]

Originally Posted by DIBBLE

its a safety issue, if they didn't think it was it wouldn'e be an issue would it ??

I doubt it. It will invalidate their insurance if it's found that timing equipment of ANY kind is bineg used.

Originally Posted by Felix

I doubt it. It will invalidate their insurance if it's found that timing equipment of ANY kind is bineg used.

and why do you think the inurance companies insist on it ???

because based on a table of probabilities and risk those running lap timers provide a greater risk, therefore become less attractive to both the insurer and the tdo.

the tdo COULD take a cover that would allow lap timers but then you're into "competition" territory and the premiuim rockets.

this like a lot of things is a catch all where the rules need to be written to protect us from the lowest common denominator, which in this instance is the idiot with a lap timer that is proven to be the greatest risk and the most danger.

thems the facts i'm afraid.

And Dom, before you get all paranoid and pee yer pants in anger no one is calling you an idiot.

[Iconic944ss]

I'm kinda curious about this....

Sorry Dom for going off topic as well - maybe a 'use of lap timers' thread is needed.

In my experience (tiny as it is) I've talked to guys who just set the lap timer running, record their 'x' number of lap times during their session - hardly bother looking at it while riding and then do some analysis back in the pits as to what gave them the faster laps.

Since I'm never likely to ever be in a fast group, do people really have the ability to see a difference in time from one lap to the next and be able to analyse (on the move) what actually made the difference?

Professional Racers - yes, since they have day in - day out experience of doing it.

Not a dig at all at anyone - personally - I've seen so much timing going on in the fast group, I dont see why it isnt recognised - just look at the data OFF the bike IMHO.

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[Felix]

Don't quite a few of the newer bikes have a built-in thumb operated lap timer built in now? How are the TDO's going to control that?

As for "them the facts", there will be people using them no matter how much you dislike it Dibble.