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[twpd]

I can only say that my experience of riding a slower and smaller bike in S-o-T classes was that it was a pain despite split grids, delayed starts etc. Inevitably, slower riders on faster bikes resulted in traffic jams, near misses and lost lap times. On several occasions I lost places because of it and in the end resorted to having to be pretty hard on some riders in order to make a move stick so, I could get on wth the job of racing/chasing after a fellow minitwin rider.

Separate races is the only sensible solution.

[weeksy2]

Originally Posted by twpd

Separate races is the only sensible solution.

they can only ask for it if they fill more spaces on the Grid mate... without that, NE are going to tell them to ****** off as they have done most of this season.

[twpd]

Originally Posted by weeksy2

they can only ask for it if they fill more spaces on the Grid mate... without that, NE are going to tell them to ****** off as they have done most of this season.

In that case given that 583's make up the majority of the entries. I'd suggest dropping 620's. Something is gonna have to give sooner or later unless DD attracts more entries (actually again as an outsider and experienced racer I find the one-day format totally off-putting).

IMO as an outsider who has no political axe or any other axe to grind I reckon that the whole formula/rule set is confusing and complicated for people looking in through the window.

Have one type of bike - either 620's or 583's.
Have eligibility for any licenced racer.
Have two trophies: one for novices. One for non-novices.

Simple.

The class is great for new and novice racers but, whilst it will retain a harcore of followers I think more than a few will move onto other things after a season or two. Correct me if I am wrong but, the 620 class exists for those that stay? Why bother? It's so small. They can just as likely stay on a 583.

[domski]

I don't see how setting the 583's off first would ever be a sensible option.

Can you imagine 15+ 620 riders carving through a field of novices on slow bikes?

You're clearly not well

[weeksy2]

Originally Posted by domski

I don't see how setting the 583's off first would ever be a sensible option.

Can you imagine 15+ 620 riders carving through a field of novices on slow bikes?

You're clearly not well

I agree with you on the first bit.... however are there more novices per 20 in the 583 than there are in 620's ?

i thought on the whole the spread of 'novices' was fairly even... (ignoring peoiple who've upgraded to clubman this season, as of start of this season ?)

[domski]

It doesn't matter mate, it's bloody dangerous!!!

That's the only reason you need to know.

You cannot have 620's coming through the whole 583 grid - it would be carnage.

Why are you being so stupid?

[weeksy2]

Where the **** did i say that ? i said you were right you lunatic....


i then asked how many novices were proportionally in each class.

Never once did i say or thing 583's should be first off...

You should read what's written instead of what you make up in your paranoid mind.

[Furio]

2 races within a race, different bikes and different riders. Even so, the field splits itself. Whether you are on a 583 or a 620, you qualify about where your ability dictates.

No, it probably isn't perfect, but I think it works.

Also, how many incidents have there been on the first few corners of any DD races? Probably not many. It would be far worse if the faster field started behind the slower field.

And another thing, fair play to those guys (and girls!) on 538s gridding in front of some of the 620s!

[fil2]

will to live lost............

split the grids if we can by getting a delayed start in with cb5's or hornets or what ever class is also low on numbers.....

Failing that..combined grid with a 10 second delay.......

Fastest class being 620 of first

...........Although it would be nice to how the 620 lads fair tring to get passed the faster 583's.......see how that affects the race results....hhehehe

PS

if u dont race in DD you dont have an opionion unless you voice it through a racer now Rack off........;-)

[weeksy2]

Originally Posted by fil2

if u dont race in DD you dont have an opionion unless you voice it through a racer now Rack off........;-)

Nopes, won't do it....