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[stumpy1]

Originally Posted by fil2

Yes but u bish were in the same class right.?...............

Once again i say the peeps who say they dont care or woteva ..are not the guys who's race or aspirations are directly affected.?............no.? yes.?

but i was saying the 583 should start first...only the fast 620 people will catch up with some of the 583 people!!

[couchcommando]

Originally Posted by stumpy1

but i was saying the 583 should start first...only the fast 620 people will catch up with some of the 583 people!!

take Oulton there was a 4 way battle for 2nd place in the 620's. just what mercy would they have given to the slower 583's when they caught them half way round the 1st lap !

[AK]

Originally Posted by stumpy1

but i was saying the 583 should start first...only the fast 620 people will catch up with some of the 583 people!!

too dangerous mate.
best to be split onto other grids like cb's or hairnets otherwise a 10 second start on same grid with 620s going first.
but hopefully there will be 2 grids so this is all hypothingy anyway

[stumpy1]

Originally Posted by AK

too dangerous mate.
best to be split onto other grids like cb's or hairnets otherwise a 10 second start on same grid with 620s going first.
but hopefully there will be 2 grids so this is all hypothingy anyway

yeah can see your point.......

lets just hope that there can be two grid for next year then.....

[TP]

The fastest lap on a 620 at Oulton Park was: 1:59.8

The fastest lap on a 583 at Oulton Park was: 2:05.62

Close enough to a 6 second PER LAP differential.

The fastest lap of the lowest placed 583 rider in the race was: 2:22.2

21.5 seconds PER LAP slower than the fastest 620.

If you had have set the 583's off 10 seconds ahead of the 620's at Oulton it would all be happening before the first lap had even finished. Madness.

Imagine the carnage of the front running 620 pack coming steaming through the back of the 583's. Just like the 4 way battle for 2nd place at Oulton.

That is just dangerous, and anyone who thinks that is the most logical solution is crazy.

[fil2]

Originally Posted by TP

The fastest lap on a 620 at Oulton Park was: 1:59.8

The fastest lap on a 583 at Oulton Park was: 2:05.62

Close enough to a 6 second PER LAP differential.

The fastest lap of the lowest placed 583 rider in the race was: 2:22.2

21.5 seconds PER LAP slower than the fastest 620.

If you had have set the 583's off 10 seconds ahead of the 620's at Oulton it would all be happening before the first lap had even finished. Madness.

Imagine the carnage of the front running 620 pack coming steaming through the back of the 583's. Just like the 4 way battle for 2nd place at Oulton.

That is just dangerous, and anyone who thinks that is the most logical solution is crazy.

how do the timings work out Tony if the 583 start on a 10 sec delay.?

[domski]

We'll catch them 10 seconds sooner that we do now

[TP]

Originally Posted by fil2

how do the timings work out Tony if the 583 start on a 10 sec delay.?

The slowest lap of the lowest placed finisher in 620's was: 2:15.8

Approximately 10 seconds per lap slower than the fastest lap by a 583 racer.

So 10 seconds if you reverse it, as opposed to over 20 seconds the other way.

The 583's would take twice as long to catch the 620's AND, the most important thing is, you can clearly see that the closing speeds are reduced by more than 50% which is quite obviously a LOT safer.

IMO

[fil2]

Originally Posted by TP

The slowest lap of the lowest placed finisher in 620's was: 2:15.8

Approximately 10 seconds per lap slower than the fastest lap by a 583 racer.

So 10 seconds if you reverse it, as opposed to over 20 seconds the other way.

The 583's would take twice as long to catch the 620's AND, the most important thing is, you can clearly see that the closing speeds are reduced by more than 50% which is quite obviously a LOT safer.

IMO

so if we are a combined grid a 10 second delay start for the 583's appears to be the best way forward.?......

Who agree's disagree's.........?

[domski]

That's OK if you want to have your own grid - but more 583 riders will lose a lap (as you're giving the 620's a 10 second head start). Plus you're still gunna run in to the 620 pack just as you do now.

I don't think there is a good solution to combined grids.