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[les996]

good - just booked another day at silverstone GP, to try and get that chicane sorted!!!

Les

[NBs996]

Yes I have, twice, never again.

[les996]

mmmmm...

why's that NB??

[NBs996]

Long stories, and of course just MY experiences, but in short...
Terrible customer service;
Too many riders on circuit;
Riders of all abilities put into all groups;
Didn't feel safe through disrespectful riders not being policed;
...amongst other stuff.

But they continue to be very strong in the tdo business so maybe I'm on my own!

[doogalman]

Never had any problems with them. Doing Brands GP on the 10th aug with them>

[phil_h]

We recently did Brands Gp with them, and that takes me to 4 with them I think.
Up to the last one I would have recommended them ... but Brands GP brings out all kinds of people who dont do many tds, and they put themselves in all of the groups.
The upshot is chaos - virtually every session was red flagged.
Almost no-one was moved - except sue who was in the inters trying to get away from the dicks that cant do corners in the slow group.
I was in the fast group (as I usually do) with the 620 and although I was by far the slowest bike in the group I was nowhere near the slowest in the corners.
There was full-on race-behaviour in the fast group which was not penalised, and I was almost taken out twice mid-corner - only my racing experience kept me on the track.
At the lunch break they called another briefing and he started ranting about the poor riding which prob made him feel better, but just made the 'bad-boys' laugh.

So, I would _not_ recommend Brands GP because of that.
I would recommend FE if it the riding group people are ok, but they just dont know how to cope with the dicks.

[doogalman]

Cheers phil-h, Will see how it goes , never had any grief with them on numerous other days, I was aware of the possible problems with the GP. Will be wary to the knobs.

Originally Posted by phil_h

We recently did Brands Gp with them, and that takes me to 4 with them I think.
Up to the last one I would have recommended them ... but Brands GP brings out all kinds of people who dont do many tds, and they put themselves in all of the groups.
The upshot is chaos - virtually every session was red flagged.
Almost no-one was moved - except sue who was in the inters trying to get away from the dicks that cant do corners in the slow group.
I was in the fast group (as I usually do) with the 620 and although I was by far the slowest bike in the group I was nowhere near the slowest in the corners.
There was full-on race-behaviour in the fast group which was not penalised, and I was almost taken out twice mid-corner - only my racing experience kept me on the track.
At the lunch break they called another briefing and he started ranting about the poor riding which prob made him feel better, but just made the 'bad-boys' laugh.

So, I would _not_ recommend Brands GP because of that.
I would recommend FE if it the riding group people are ok, but they just dont know how to cope with the dicks.

Its not just the GP, I did Brands Indy with them about 8 weeks back and all the above were true .... including the pretend bollocking after which nothing changes ...

[RickyX]

Originally Posted by NBs996

Long stories, and of course just MY experiences, but in short...
Terrible customer service;
Too many riders on circuit;
Riders of all abilities put into all groups;
Didn't feel safe through disrespectful riders not being policed;
...amongst other stuff.

But they continue to be very strong in the tdo business so maybe I'm on my own!

Nick,

You're not alone - I have experienced all the above with them. Especially the lack of firmness with disrespectful riders.

RX

[Ray]

Talking in the briefing and taking action to deal with problems on the track are not the same thing, IMHO that separates the talkers and doers.

As JPM and others say a good TDO listens to what the "victim" says and checks it out and takes action if necessary. It's a judgement the TDO should make, what we seem to be saying here is that some might talk the talk but not walk the walk.

Sure the "problem" rider might ride OK for 5 laps but equally they can get the Marshalls to look out for the problem, they don't just rely on their own instructors out on track. Marshalls once allerted are gonna keep a close eye on a particular rider, and call in any incident they feel has caused a problem.

In effect there is a group responsibilty for safety, the Riders, marshalls instructors, all have a part to play in policing the etiquette. Everyone involved are the eyes and ears of the TDO.
The TDO is getting the feeds from these sources, thats why it is so important to speak to the organiser, a number of reports from different riders is a pretty good indication that someone needs watching very carefully and or needs to be spoken to.

Ray