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[weeksy2]

Hard to police to Andy.... you have 40 bikes, 10 corners... and half a dozen straights.... how can you watch all the riders all the time ?

if you have a muppet out there, he may make 3 bad moves per session.... the odds of any of them 3 being picked up have to be fairly remote...

People are very quick to jump on the bandwagon here, try marshalling/instructing an event and see how easy it is first guys....

[JPM]

Originally Posted by weeksy2

Hard to police to Andy.... you have 40 bikes, 10 corners... and half a dozen straights.... how can you watch all the riders all the time ?

if you have a muppet out there, he may make 3 bad moves per session.... the odds of any of them 3 being picked up have to be fairly remote...

People are very quick to jump on the bandwagon here, try marshalling/instructing an event and see how easy it is first guys....

Any good TDO would listen to their customers and if someone was to say he's riding like an idiot I would expect the TDO to make sure the next session an instructor follows the "idiot" for a few laps to see if the claims were correct, if they were tell them the score if they do it again in the following session they go home. If their riding is OK then it's purely the perception of that individual so some diplomacy and understanding of the issues are needed, this is where a good, sorry excellent TDO instructor/marshalling comes into action which some have and some don't

[weeksy2]

Originally Posted by JPM

Any good TDO would listen to their customers and if someone was to say he's riding like an idiot I would expect the TDO to make sure the next session an instructor follows the "idiot" for a few laps to see if the claims were correct, if they were tell them the score if they do it again in the following session they go home. If their riding is OK then it's purely the perception of that individual so some diplomacy and understanding of the issues are needed, this is where a good, sorry excellent TDO instructor/marshalling comes into action which some have and some don't

OK, so lets assume that happens... they follow mr XYZ and he rides perfectly well.... 5 laps later they pull in....

then what ?

[JPM]

Like I said it could be the upset parties perception - a one off, we've all done a close pass here and there so it could just of been that that caused the issue, if someone else complains about the same guy then it has to be looked at.

Usually if they are riding like an idiot then they always ride like that (don't quote me on that though) I was at Donny on Tuesday and I spotted the same guy over and over taking the wrong lines, he wasn't an idiot by any means so no one would of complained to the TDO but I spotted him doing the same in most sessions that's just his riding style I suppose but I spotted that on several occasions and I was just a punter, a instructor/marshall would of spotted him way before me I'm sure and if they thought he was erractic to a point they would of had a chat and offered some instruction/advice I'm sure.

[andyb]

I know its about the quality of the eyes and ears. One mans nobber is another persons quality move...

but theres generally no smoke without fire, and as jpm says if someone thinks its worthy of a mention to a tdo, then they are duty bound to at least bear that person in mind...if its corroborated by another complaint, surely that then requires action of some sort?

(This is the sensible side of my..if i was in a t/day on a dd bike id run in the top group, working on the theory i may well get buzzed on the straight bits, but thats surely safer than me buzzing other slower riders mid corner with my higher corner speed..........)

[weeksy2]

Originally Posted by andyb

I know its about the quality of the eyes and ears. One mans nobber is another persons quality move...

but theres generally no smoke without fire, and as jpm says if someone thinks its worthy of a mention to a tdo, then they are duty bound to at least bear that person in mind...if its corroborated by another complaint, surely that then requires action of some sort?

(This is the sensible side of my..if i was in a t/day on a dd bike id run in the top group, working on the theory i may well get buzzed on the straight bits, but thats surely safer than me buzzing other slower riders mid corner with my higher corner speed..........)

Surely the fact that the TDO had a word with all riders at lunchtime is a good start ?

if they don't have enough specifics or witnesses... at least they're making a point ?