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Old 23-Jul-2006, 16:24
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We must remember this has been done because of riders requesting it, obviously not us but other riders within new era. Whether there was a majority of riders suggesting it or just that the ones suggesting it had the loudest voice I don't know.
I'm not happy with it being a 12 lap race. I don't know about anyone else but on trackdays the tyres start to go off after a little more than normal race distance, I guess it's the same for all of us so maybe this isn't a worry ?

So before we start having a go at new era it has been done as a response to the riders wanting it !
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Old 23-Jul-2006, 16:42
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Not at all happy about it. As novice riders, the more starts and time time to think about things between races the better! I've not had a good race 1 yet this season.
When we went to Donington a week or so ago, my brakes were decidedly lacking during the latter half of the 20 min session, so I reckon that those of us running with a single brake will suffer a lot. I dare say the front guys will suffer with tyres also. Not happy. Want to race at Donington really badly, don't like being messed about halfway through a season *grumpy*
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Old 23-Jul-2006, 16:50
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just to quote from NE - as posted on the forum today:

"I understand what you are saying..........can I suggest that a representative of you guys contacts the club about this concern.

There has been nothing decided as of yet about this format being run at anymore of the meetings, so please don't worry too much and remember to give us some feedback after Donington"

so maybe they havent yet been contacted by the RC?

But if this does go ahead like this, we all go from a final 5 races down to 3:
1 per meeting to the end of the season
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Old 23-Jul-2006, 19:19
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have also posted this on DD site,
if its too late to change it from one 12 lapper at Donny - cant we then have Snett revised and have the usual 2 std races there instead?

Rider reps - this was on the entry forms for Snett(even if it was a mistake) any chance that you could poss ask for this if it is a 'non-starter' to get Donny altered?

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Old 23-Jul-2006, 19:24
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Road rubber going off after 12 laps ? come on... seriously... people have run 1 pair of tyres for a whole season before now.

Everyone does 12+ laps on trackdays more than 6 times in a day. I've run back to back sessions on the 916 with a mate and the rubber was fine and dandy.

I can accpet a lot of things, but tyres going off, well, i'm not having that one.
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Old 23-Jul-2006, 21:54
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Road rubber going off after 12 laps ? come on... seriously... people have run 1 pair of tyres for a whole season before now.

Everyone does 12+ laps on trackdays more than 6 times in a day. I've run back to back sessions on the 916 with a mate and the rubber was fine and dandy.

I can accpet a lot of things, but tyres going off, well, i'm not having that one.

Sorry Steve but you'll have to swallow it. Lap 5 & 6 of almost every race see the back end sliding. It's not a matter that they go off, more that the top layer of rubber overheats while the carcass is still cold (a consequence of having no tyre warmers). The difference in temp causes the tyres to feel greasy and lose traction. What they'll be like over 12 laps of a hot donny I dread to think. There isn't a road tyre on the market that's designed to run at race pace for 25 mins at a track temp of 45 degs C, let alone the humble (but brilliant) Diablo.

As for you running back to back sessions on the 916, try carrying some cornerspeed once in a while and you'll soon see what we're on about.......
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Old 23-Jul-2006, 23:04
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LOL...nice Ali...

However maybe this opens the can of worms of warmers then ?

I've never ridden on diablos and you could argue i've never lapped at the same pace as you... However, i see plenty of boys in series like R6 cup (Dunlops) of blokes in New Era powerbikes running on 'road' (SC and Racetecs in NE) lapping in many seconds quicker than you lads and lasses and not complaining about their tyres losing traction.

SPinning a tyre isn't necessarily a sign of it going off is it ? Surely there's a mix up in words here, as if the tyre had 'gone off' then it would not be used again in the next meeting... most people keep the rubber for more than 1 race don't they ?
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cant we then have Snett revised and have the usual 2 std races there instead?

Rider reps - this was on the entry forms for Snett(even if it was a mistake) any chance that you could poss ask for this if it is a 'non-starter' to get Donny altered?

C

NO.......i disagree .....................leave snetterton as it is 1 race

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