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Old 24-Jul-2006, 07:13
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Nice one Chris

Certainly worth approaching them

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Cheers Kev, when speaking to Jim yesterday he mentioned that NE is run as a business, wages to pay etc,etc, DP is not, so spare cash is chaneled back into the club, for instance this years fees are the same as last years , although the club had to pay higher circuit fees for each meeting, the fees to riders did not go up, but where subsidised by spare cash from the club, now that is the way it should be done, but it is down to DD organisers to sort out, but I do recomend they do sooner than later.

Another good point to come from the two day DP meeting at snetterton was that due to not needing practices on the sunday all 1st races went to 10 laps & all second races went to 12 laps, well worth the entrance fees, also they ran a scratch race at the end of the meeting, open to any bikes, £10 (100% of the £10 went to the riders Ben fund) first 40 to the assembly area raced, thats what you call good organisation.


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Old 24-Jul-2006, 09:03
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And very similar to NG, they also run without any full time staff and therefore do not have the salary bill of New Era, their club membership fees were again unchanged this year for what must be the 4th year running. Pembrey is still £75 a day entry for 2 races and a practice, with extra classes at £40, this is the same as the entry fees for Darley Moor on the weekend of the Donington DD meet.
Practice on Sundays is restricted to Sunday only entries and fallers from Saturday that have been back through scrutineering.
As can be seen from posts on the board those that have raced before at club level are more than happy to race with the likes of DP and NG as they feel they get a better deal compared to the likes of NE and Bemsee


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Old 24-Jul-2006, 09:05
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with 3 days to get yer money back...has the " RC " got any official feedback Kev........................

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Old 24-Jul-2006, 09:21
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I got a email yesterday from a MT member on the RC who has been away for the last few days saying they are happy to contact New Era today to try and sort it out if no official contact had yet been made.
My understanding is that its upto the MT side of the RC to deal with New Era not the reps so there may not yet have been any official contact.

I for one want to know whats happening £180 for 2 races is a bit much, my second class was for DD Class A to try and swell the numbers but if that didn't work I asked them to transfer the entry to SVs so I could test the new bike. One long race for a freshly built untried bike is not what I wanted, a couple of shorter races would have been far better giving a couple of chances to change things between practice and race one and then between race 1 and race 2. Especially if I notice something I'm not happy with on the first lap.


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Old 24-Jul-2006, 09:35
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Not yet Phil
I got a email yesterday from a MT member on the RC who has been away for the last few days saying they are happy to contact New Era today to try and sort it out if no official contact had yet been made.
My understanding is that its upto the MT side of the RC to deal with New Era not the reps so there may not yet have been any official contact.

I for one want to know whats happening £180 for 2 races is a bit much, my second class was for DD Class A to try and swell the numbers but if that didn't work I asked them to transfer the entry to SVs so I could test the new bike. One long race for a freshly built untried bike is not what I wanted, a couple of shorter races would have been far better giving a couple of chances to change things between practice and race one and then between race 1 and race 2. Especially if I notice something I'm not happy with on the first lap.

A point that may need raising is the cost of the " second " race at 25 quid per extra race, when there is 2 races..!! but now in affect there is 1 race but twice the lenght...will they charge us more for the extra race on the day.?..i can see my regs with 25 quid to pay on the day.??!?!?!

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Old 24-Jul-2006, 09:53
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A point that may need raising is the cost of the " second " race at 25 quid per extra race, when there is 2 races..!! but now in affect there is 1 race but twice the lenght...will they charge us more for the extra race on the day.?..i can see my regs with 25 quid to pay on the day.??!?!?!

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I just spoke to Jean at New Era who told me that the extra race (regardless of length) was £25, but I'm sure they'll change their mind if needs be.

She did seem to think that the class was pretty full however so I wouldn't necessarily get in.
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Old 24-Jul-2006, 10:00
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I just spoke to Jean at New Era who told me that the extra race (regardless of length) was £25, but I'm sure they'll change their mind if needs be.

She did seem to think that the class was pretty full however so I wouldn't necessarily get in.

Great ..NOT....so we may only get to race once then..........!?!..or will they bump us to another class.?.......................

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Been thinking about this over the weekend and still can't quite get my head around it. Lets go back to their rationale:

"This situation arises of course as a result of the increasing number of “Red Flags” that are now being displayed and the time lost is not there to be regained."

Last year we had untimed practise, timed practise and two races. I don't remember a meeting where they had to cancel a race at the end of the day due to stoppages. There may have been meetings where this happened but none that we attended.

This year we start with no timed practise, and lots of us post messages saying "this is borrocks, no warm-up is a dangerous thing". Halfway through the season and NE are concerned that they're getting more red flags. I'd have to say that, if this is the case then it could just have something to do with chucking a bunch of adreneline fuelled nutters out to qualify when the last time most of them saw the track was 12 months ago.....

Next thing we know we're told that the format is moving to qualifying and one race only. So now we have the same problem of no warm-up, but instead of having two races we have only one. This can only lead to more crashes as you only have one chance to get the result you want, and the points you're scoring are twice as important.

Having one 'endurance' style event a year is interesting, it's something you can prepare for, adjust your mindset to, but having them every meet is a nightmare for all the reasons everyone has listed.
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