Ducati Sporting Club UK > DesmoDue Race Series > DesmoDue - General Questions and Chat > Change of race format at New Era

[fil2]

Originally Posted by skidlids

Not yet Phil
I got a email yesterday from a MT member on the RC who has been away for the last few days saying they are happy to contact New Era today to try and sort it out if no official contact had yet been made.
My understanding is that its upto the MT side of the RC to deal with New Era not the reps so there may not yet have been any official contact.

I for one want to know whats happening £180 for 2 races is a bit much, my second class was for DD Class A to try and swell the numbers but if that didn't work I asked them to transfer the entry to SVs so I could test the new bike. One long race for a freshly built untried bike is not what I wanted, a couple of shorter races would have been far better giving a couple of chances to change things between practice and race one and then between race 1 and race 2. Especially if I notice something I'm not happy with on the first lap.

A point that may need raising is the cost of the " second " race at 25 quid per extra race, when there is 2 races..!! but now in affect there is 1 race but twice the lenght...will they charge us more for the extra race on the day.?..i can see my regs with 25 quid to pay on the day.??!?!?!

Phil

[ali]

Originally Posted by fil2

A point that may need raising is the cost of the " second " race at 25 quid per extra race, when there is 2 races..!! but now in affect there is 1 race but twice the lenght...will they charge us more for the extra race on the day.?..i can see my regs with 25 quid to pay on the day.??!?!?!

Phil

I just spoke to Jean at New Era who told me that the extra race (regardless of length) was £25, but I'm sure they'll change their mind if needs be.

She did seem to think that the class was pretty full however so I wouldn't necessarily get in.

[fil2]

Originally Posted by ali

I just spoke to Jean at New Era who told me that the extra race (regardless of length) was £25, but I'm sure they'll change their mind if needs be.

She did seem to think that the class was pretty full however so I wouldn't necessarily get in.

Great ..NOT....so we may only get to race once then..........!?!..or will they bump us to another class.?.......................

*sigh *

[ali]

Been thinking about this over the weekend and still can't quite get my head around it. Lets go back to their rationale:

"This situation arises of course as a result of the increasing number of “Red Flags” that are now being displayed and the time lost is not there to be regained."

Last year we had untimed practise, timed practise and two races. I don't remember a meeting where they had to cancel a race at the end of the day due to stoppages. There may have been meetings where this happened but none that we attended.

This year we start with no timed practise, and lots of us post messages saying "this is borrocks, no warm-up is a dangerous thing". Halfway through the season and NE are concerned that they're getting more red flags. I'd have to say that, if this is the case then it could just have something to do with chucking a bunch of adreneline fuelled nutters out to qualify when the last time most of them saw the track was 12 months ago.....

Next thing we know we're told that the format is moving to qualifying and one race only. So now we have the same problem of no warm-up, but instead of having two races we have only one. This can only lead to more crashes as you only have one chance to get the result you want, and the points you're scoring are twice as important.

Having one 'endurance' style event a year is interesting, it's something you can prepare for, adjust your mindset to, but having them every meet is a nightmare for all the reasons everyone has listed.

[Murray Mint]

Well I'm coming out of the woodwork on this issue.

I normally support the MT and RC in their decisions but regarding this current situation I am left wondering just what the club officials are doing, come on guys we need some communication even if its bad news, let us know that you are indeed doing something or as it would appear doing nothing.

Murray Mint

[phoenix n max]

Dya know - this is what I will not miss about DD - all this last minute change of goalposts.. Every meeting has been the same.

[Mark Hill #36]

has anyone in the MT realised that 50 riders bringing their entries in is enough to cover about a quarter of the circuit hire? (very rough guess)

How much clout does that earn, and they just keep squeezing you....

something's fishy

[skidlids]

Quite right Mark, even with one combined grid plus a few doing races in other classes the DD contribution would be in the region of £5.5k to £6k at this meeting which I would think would cover the cost of 1/7th of the meeting.

With the meeting running from 9am to 6pm and allowing for a 1 hr lunch thas 8 hours track time of which about 1hr 10mins is paid for by DD members.

The DD grid itself puts £5.2k into the meeting so roughly 1/8th of the meetings costs so that should buy 1 hr of track time and what do DD get got the money, 15 min practice and a race that probably takes up about 30mins from taking to the track until last rider is off it.

So either way you look at it DD is getting short changed with 1hr tracktime I'm sure a 10 minute timed practice and two 8 lap races could be fitted in with time to spare and with the format they have now adopted of only one longer race and a 15 min timed practice there should still be enough time left for a 4 lap free practice session