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Old 14-Aug-2006, 11:11
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I guess Im out of time for the popcorn??.......................................











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I thought this sort of thread only happended in the winter time??
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Old 14-Aug-2006, 11:27
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ah, fair enough then!

not up on all this jap stuff you see.
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Old 14-Aug-2006, 12:09
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I know that Nelly actually does extra stuff above and beyond the standard service schedules i.e. taking the cams out to check for the dreaded rocker problems, which isn't part of the service schedule.

He has always treated my bikes like he would treat his own, except for the fact that he hasn't painted them yellow, thank god for that bit.
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Old 14-Aug-2006, 12:43
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I have been to several official and "specialist" Ducati service centers over the past 14 years of ownership and the only place for an exellent job and peace of mind is Cornerspeed. As stated earlier in this thread Nelly is always willing to help a fellow owner and gives all of us his time/advice freely.
He has a schedule from DUK and this has to be applied - the service may be expensive but can save you money down the line because it has been done proffesionally !!!!
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Old 14-Aug-2006, 14:43
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If you want to join the Nelly/JHP etc fan club - I am sure they will be delighted to take your money - but I for one refuse - they are not that good and as far as I am concerned - their customer service/knowledge is sh*te - except for a few specialist areas - I can do a better quality job myself.


Hmmm.
Whatever your thoughts on service pricing structures, I think this comment may have gone a bit far.
If that was about me in my professional capacity, I'd suggest you got a good solicitor cause you'd have mail....
Definite defamation IMHO.......
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Old 14-Aug-2006, 14:56
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Hmmm.
Whatever your thoughts on service pricing structures, I think this comment may have gone a bit far.
If that was about me in my professional capacity, I'd suggest you got a good solicitor cause you'd have mail....
Definite defamation IMHO.......

ACCORDING TO WIKIPEDIA

Modern law
English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which defame a named or identifiable individual or individuals in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them.

A statement can include an implication. A large photograph of Tony Blair above a headline saying "Corrupt Politicians" might be held to be an allegation that Tony Blair was personally corrupt.

The allowable defences against libel are:

Justification: the defendant proves that the statement was true. If the defence fails, a court may treat any material produced by the defence to substantiate it, and any ensuing media coverage, as factors aggravating the libel and increasing the damages.
Fair Comment: the defendant shows that the statement was a view that a reasonable person could have held, even if they were motivated by dislike or hatred of the plaintiff.
Privilege: the defendant's comments were made in Parliament or under oath in court of law or were an accurate and neutral report of such comments. There is also a defence of 'qualified privilege' under which people, who are not acting out of malice, may claim privilege for fair reporting of allegations which if true were in the public interest to be published. The leading modern English case on qualified privilege in the context of newspaper articles which are claimed to defame a public figure is now Reynolds v. Times Newspapers Ltd and Others, 1999 UKHL 45.
An offer of amends - typically a combination of correction, apology and/or financial compensation - is a barrier to litigation in the courts.

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Burden of Proof on the Plaintiff
In most legal systems the courts give the benefit of the doubt to people being tried. They are presumed innocent until the prosecution can prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt (in criminal law), or the plaintiff can show liability on a balance of probabilities (in civil law). However, at first glance, this burden of proof, in defamation laws - in some countries' legal systems, e.g. in the UK and Australia - seems to be reversed. In other countries, e.g. the USA, the burden of proof is on the accuser, consistent with other laws.

In systems where the burden of proof is said to be reversed, once the plaintiff meets the burden of proof that the publisher made the allegedly defamatory statement, the untruth of that statement is then presumed — the innocence of the person allegedly defamed is presumed, rather than the innocence of the person allegedly defaming.

So the burden of proof falls onto the defendant in the case, which can be called a reversal of the burden of proof.

The English laws on libel have traditionally favored the plaintiffs. A recent decision by the European Court of Human Rights (in the so-called "McLibel case") held that, on the (exceptional) facts of that case, the burden on the defendants in the English courts was too high. However, it is unlikely that the case will provoke any considerable change in substantive English law, despite strong academic criticism of the current position. [1]
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