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[domski]

Originally Posted by couchcommando

Y'see this is the problem and one of the reasons DD will fail in the not too distant future.
All this public ranting and arguing is not doing us any favours. I reckon in PJ we have a man that can do some of the work and in Dom we have one that could do the PR work. But whilst they prefer to argue and not put the past behind them we will get nowhere.
FFS will you 2 just get together and work together (if allowed of course) as arguing aside you could do some good for the series.
Draw a line today over the past and just start again please

I disagree.

Paul has clearly shown he is not the man for the job.

He's done none of the basic things required of him, and continues to dodge the important questions that prove this!

The DesmoDue series needs someone who can take it forward.

I've only volunteered to do half his job coz he's clearly not doing it - and it's the one that he does for the whole club!

Of course he'll deny this and tell us how hard he's been working behind the scenes. Which brings me back to my questions above. Simple fundemental things that anyone running a race series should have dealt with long long ago!

It's not good enough, and as PJ says, he's accountable to the riders as well as the MT.

As a rider I'm now holding him accountable - I can't do it any other way, as my emails get swept under the carpet, and all the MT members will obviously stand by their fellow MT member.

Nothing will change if we all stand about and say what a cracking job is being done - when it clearly isn't. This isn't a time for blowing smoke up the RC's backside. Unless you're happy with the demise of DD.

[couchcommando]

Never said he had done a perfect job, but all this public slating off him will put off anyone else that may stand forward to replace him. I say may because can you see anyone wanting the job knowing what lies ahead ?

TBH all this indecision and unhappiness with how DD is run, the alleged rifts it causes in DSC makes me very nervous about having money tied up in our bikes. The losers if and more likely when the series folds will be those that own the bikes. That's why the public arguing/criticism needs to stop as if it's putting those of us in the series off then it certainly is putting people off joining.
I agree with both sides here that improvements are needed, I don't agree this is the medium to use to get your point across.

[dickieducati]

i dont really see why doms simple questions cant be answered on here. none of them have a hidden agenda. if someone has been to busy to do something,has overlooked something, or simply forgetten to get round to it then say so. its not hard and nothing to lose face about. we can see what needs doing and get it done.

i just dont understand why a simple question cant be given a simple answer and then we can do something. this lock down of rules is such a simple exercise i cant beleive it will still be outstanding (most likely) after this season has finished.

[ChrisBushell]

Boys

That is enough, I am going to ask the WEBteam to lock this thread for the time being.

A couple of points:

1) It is policy that the Race Committee dont do negotiaion/disucssion through the message board. All riders have been informed of this, but some seem to ignore it.

2) The RC/MT are quite understanding of the fact that in order to preserve the investment that people have in the bikes, there needs to be a series.

3) I am aware of at least 2 pieces of information that are immenant (i.e. within 48 hours) that will answer some of the pressing questions.

4) As with last year at this time, the next years plan, program, etc does not get looked at till September. We are actually well placed to define the options for next year and get input from the riders.

There is not a lot to be gained from he said - they said debates, on a message board. We have a race meeting on Sunday, I understand that the RC will be available all day there to answer questions, you then have your opportunity to put your points forward.

Chris

[Monty]

Dominic, the reason you haven't received a reply from me is because as Paul stated I was away. Your e-mail to me was dated 16.10 on the 25th which was Friday not Thursday as you stated. I haven't even read the e-mail yet since I have only just downloaded it-and I am working today so I doubt it will get read until tonight.

John

[domski]

Originally Posted by Monty

Dominic, the reason you haven't received a reply from me is because as Paul stated I was away. Your e-mail to me was dated 16.10 on the 25th which was Friday not Thursday as you stated. I haven't even read the e-mail yet since I have only just downloaded it-and I am working today so I doubt it will get read until tonight.

John

Fair enough John.

The first attempts were sent on Thursday though. Both bounced back from the chairman@dsc email addy. Maybe that needs looking into in case anyone is trying to use it?

Cheers

Dom

[domski]

Originally Posted by ChrisBushell

Boys

That is enough, I am going to ask the WEBteam to lock this thread for the time being.

A couple of points:

1) It is policy that the Race Committee dont do negotiaion/disucssion through the message board. All riders have been informed of this, but some seem to ignore it.

2) The RC/MT are quite understanding of the fact that in order to preserve the investment that people have in the bikes, there needs to be a series.

3) I am aware of at least 2 pieces of information that are immenant (i.e. within 48 hours) that will answer some of the pressing questions.

4) As with last year at this time, the next years plan, program, etc does not get looked at till September. We are actually well placed to define the options for next year and get input from the riders.

There is not a lot to be gained from he said - they said debates, on a message board. We have a race meeting on Sunday, I understand that the RC will be available all day there to answer questions, you then have your opportunity to put your points forward.

Chris

It's a shame that it takes a non-RC member to point out these things!

Thanks Chris. I'll speak to you at Snett, you at least listen!

Still can't see what the big deal is in answering my very simple straight forward questions though, but hey ho!

[domski]

Originally Posted by couchcommando

Never said he had done a perfect job, but all this public slating off him will put off anyone else that may stand forward to replace him.

It's not a public slating - and not intended as such.

It's just 100% pure fact.

If that fact proves that a job has not been done - why am I out of order to point that out?

Do you honestly think I'd get all wound up about this just for a laugh?

If I wanted to upset PJ, I wouldn't do it on the forum!

I've tried to do this responsibly via email, and I get insulted, antagonised and belittled and STILL don't get answers. So, how else am I supposed to do it? If there is nothing to hide and the job has been done - then PJ can make me look stupid and explain it to us.

[dickieducati]

Originally Posted by domski

then PJ can make me look stupid .

vis a vis: shooting fish in a barrel !

but good point well made.

[domski]

Originally Posted by dickieducati

vis a vis: shooting fish in a barrel !

but good point well made.

Idiot