Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > I was enjoying the Harley Thread

[jeff st4s]

Oohhh.
It was not hopefully something I said?
I don't mind a bit of banter being a bitter northerner.
I hope I did not over step the mark and bruise some delicate southern harley loving sensibilities on a DUCATI board.
If I offended anyone I apologise. xx

[couchcommando]

I thought as discussions go it was a valid one. As business models go Harley Ducati and now Triumph all use the same one. That is to sell an inferior product by basing the buying decision on emotion and then present you with the 'extras' catalogue.
Luckily for all 3 marques that bike buying is still an emotional thing, if we were to base it purely on figures,costs,stats etc we would all be riding Honda appliances

[jeff st4s]

Sadly ultimately what iritates me, is the fact that we let our industies go to the wall, the Yanks kept funding Harley (out of patriotism) when natural selection should have killed it off.
I have nothing against yanks (I have friends out there, an expensive hi-fi and mountain bike all with the USA flag on it).
When the yanks do something they tend to do it to overkill proportions, which I admire, as long as there is no Harley logo on it the red mist stays at bay.

[VanDaMauler]

The threads being "Reviewed" by the web team???

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/sh...ad.php?t=35439

I was looking forward to hearing the blinkered stereotype thoughts and views, awwww ******* ******* ***** **** can we have it back and un-edited please..

[couchcommando]

Originally Posted by jeff st4s

Sadly ultimately what iritates me, is the fact that we let our industies go to the wall, the Yanks kept funding Harley (out of patriotism) when natural selection should have killed it off.
I have nothing against yanks (I have friends out there, an expensive hi-fi and mountain bike all with the USA flag on it).
When the yanks do something they tend to do it to overkill proportions, which I admire, as long as there is no Harley logo on it the red mist stays at bay.

If natural selection is the yardstick then say good bye to anything that isn't made in Japan.
There is a market for Harleys, they aint my thing and obviously not yours but I would have thougth the fact you ride a bike made by a small manufacturer that should also not be with us financially would make you sympathise with HD.

[jeff st4s]

If big business wants to put money into Ducati as an investment and it does not work, then thats life.
As customers of Ducati we end up paying due to the size of the company in higher purchase/running costs, but that is our choice.
Harley was bailed out several times as it was the only viable US bike manufacturer, not because it was any good.
This was supported by my bike riding American friends who were equally annoyed they were spending tax payers dollars keeping them afloat.

There are no blinkered stereotype views here!

[ariel]

Not Half

[Stu748R]

Hee hee,here we go again...............

[Iconic944ss]

A few observations on the original thread - under review.

Its always difficult to gauge someones intent in a posting without the use of a smilie or some specific note.

I think the original thread would of been fine if it had simply gone along the lines of "A rider was too close behind traffic and nearly lost it" without lauching into what "looks like" an attack on Harley riders.

If its wasnt a dig at Harley riders and their lifestyle choice why were the extra comments made at the end of the thread?

Finally - the Webteam that is reviewing the post is composed of three people which includes myself, Eamonn and Mark - so a decision will be made by agreement.

Considered and respectful argument is always allowed on the board, which is why I'm pleased to see the discussion continue in that way - here.

Kind Regards - Frank
DSC Webteam

[twpd]

Originally Posted by couchcommando

If natural selection is the yardstick then say good bye to anything that isn't made in Japan.
There is a market for Harleys, they aint my thing and obviously not yours but I would have thougth the fact you ride a bike made by a small manufacturer that should also not be with us financially would make you sympathise with HD.

Having worked with the Japanese for many years in the micro-electronics business I have good experience of them and I can assure you that what you say is not the case - they are not the yardstick and they are not the best by a long chalk. No one is. They are nt particularly good engineers or designers but, they are fairly decent at mass-production.