Ducati Sporting Club UK > Model Specific - Discussion, Technical Problems and Help > General Motorcycles only > New Ducati 1098 ! the inside line from the USA ?

[doogalman]

How about discussing the forthcoming new bike.

[Rod]

Hot off the press from Italy comes this info on the forthcoming 1098 models:

Ti posso dire che base ed S avranno lo stesso motore,
al limite l'S avrà le bielle in titanio.
L'R sarà 1200 e sarà la base per la SBK.
I motori , sia il 1099 che il 1200 , non saranno un 'testastretta' con cilindrata aumentata ma saranno una vera e propria evoluzione del testastretta.
Sono stati completamente riprogettati,
con carter piu' piccoli e tante altra cose nuove.
Foto ancora non ne circolano.....

Loosely translates as:

I can tell you that the base and S models will have the same engine,
at least the "S" will have titanium conrods.
The "R" will be 1200 cc and will form the basis of the WSBK contender
The engines, solely the 1099 rather than the 1200, will not be a "testastretta" with oversized bores but will be a true and complete evolution of the "testastretta"
They have been completely redesigned with smaller ***** and many other new features
No photos are in circulation as yet

Sorry the ****** (carter) word in the above text, I am unable to translate as I don't know what it means. There is a limit to my Italian you know!


I know this is but a snippet of information but it does leave us a few more clues. One other bit of info I picked up was that the Tri Colore version will be solely a tricked up version of the "S" model and that the "R" will be a true 1200cc and will not be available until 2008, unlike the 1098 range (which should hit the UK showrooms in Feb/March 2007), since it's release is timed to coincide with it's introduction into WSBK and the AMA championship (Ducati will not be competing in the US in 2007). Likely as ever Ducati will probably change the 1098 range in 2008 again to be 1198 base and 1198S to keep in line with the 1200R. As for the Tri Colore model...who knows!!

[Sharpy G]

looks like I'll be waiting 'till at least 2008 then ;-)
G

[Rod]

Thanks to someone who cut and pasted my post from this thread (which was a reply I received to a PM sent to someone on the Ducati MS forum) the original Italian author informs on that thread that "carter" means the engine base (sump). The sump is no longer the coppa bassa design (deep sump) found on the current 999 engine, so we appear to be returning to something resembling the older style crankcases, albeit as part of a completely redesigned engine.

Also gleaned the following info. Production of the 1098 is apparently already underway at the Bologna factory and Ducati will be fielding the current 999 (F07) in next years WSB championship. The new replacement for the 999R will be the only true 1200cc engine (1200R) and will not be available to the public until Spring 2008 in line with homologation rules for the new 1200cc WSB machine 1200 (F08). More than that we don't know.

[jeff st4s]

So we can gather all the old 1098 engines will then filter down to the rest of the range when the "superbikes" are all upgraded to 1200?

[Rod]

Originally Posted by jeff st4s

So we can gather all the old 1098 engines will then filter down to the rest of the range when the "superbikes" are all upgraded to 1200?

Perhaps that will happen. It's likely to migrate into the Monster range first ousting the current Testastretta engine in the forthcoming S4R Testastretta and the current S4RS Testastretta models. The Multistrada already has the 1100DS engine in place for 2007, so other models may benefit like the Supersport range, but we won't know the whole of the 2007 line up until November, despite the early release of the new Monsters for next year (695 and the S4R Testastretta)

[phillc]

Originally Posted by Rod

The Multistrada already has the 1100DS engine in place for 2007, so other models may benefit like the Supersport range, but we won't know the whole of the 2007 line up until November

I'd heard that the Supersport range was being done away with in 2007. Personally I think that's a shame. I'd just like to see it get a redesign (current shape released in 1998, so it's 8 year old now) because the two valve air cooled engines deserve to live on in something other than the Multistrada.

[bolds]

Originally Posted by phillc

I'd heard that the Supersport range was being done away with in 2007. Personally I think that's a shame. I'd just like to see it get a redesign (current shape released in 1998, so it's 8 year old now) because the two valve air cooled engines deserve to live on in something other than the Multistrada.

It does-Monster and Sport classic range and probably the Hypermoto

[Rod]

Originally Posted by phillc

I'd heard that the Supersport range was being done away with in 2007. Personally I think that's a shame. I'd just like to see it get a redesign (current shape released in 1998, so it's 8 year old now) because the two valve air cooled engines deserve to live on in something other than the Multistrada.

Best bit of news so far is the price IMHO, as if the European market follows suit with the US pricing structure, then you could buy the base model 1098 for less than 10K, the S for just over and the Tri Colore all singing all dancing model for 13K !! That is seriosly cheaper than the current 999 range.