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[twpd]

The reason is valid if the rumour is proved true. If you don't like the system then petition the ACU to change it.

The rules are black & white - they have to be otherwise we'd all be arguing over their application everytime the rulebook was exercised. It's the Clerk of the Course who ultimately decides if a bike can be protested - no-one else.

The C-o-C would normally listen to input from various people before deciding a protest can go ahead - I've never known this to happen on the basis of just one or two complaints. C-o-C's are normally pretty sensible and will weigh up the balance of evidence before allowing a protest to proceed.

He obviously felt that there was a valid reason - you should take up the issue with him instead of complaining here.

[domski]

Originally Posted by twpd

The reason is valid if the rumour is proved true. If you don't like the system then petition the ACU to change it.

The rules are black & white - they have to be otherwise we'd all be arguing over their application everytime the rulebook was exercised. It's the Clerk of the Course who ultimately decides if a bike can be protested - no-one else.

The C-o-C would normally listen to input from various people before deciding a protest can go ahead - I've never known this to happen on the basis of just one or two complaints. C-o-C's are normally pretty sensible and will weigh up the balance of evidence before allowing a protest to proceed.

He obviously felt that there was a valid reason - you should take up the issue with him instead of complaining here.

The C-o-C told me that a protest had gone in with the backing of the race committee.

So that would have convinced him I'm sure.

Even before they started stripping our bike I was told by another high up NE official that they have other circuit based equipment (speed related) and in his opinion my bike was no faster than anyone else's - but the strip had to go ahead!

Myself and Chass have no problem with a genuine protest, but I am still of the opinion that it was a personal issue with the RC - until proven otherwise.

It's also incredibly cowardly of the protest 'sponsors' to hide away and let Antony take all the flack. Just shows what a bunch of spineless morons they are - whoever they may be!

[twpd]

Then it would seem to me that the C-o-C may have allowed himself to be cajoled. In my experience, given the seriouslness of stripping a competitor's bike, normally a C-o-C will be very reluctant to allow a protest to go ahead without consulting numerous people including the chief scrut - the latter often giving the bike a close look over himself.

In any case, it is clear from Ant's post that there were quite a few rumours so, I think riders should be taking a look at themselves because that is where a protest comes from...fellow competitors. Not bystanders.

edit: This won't go down well but, it's true - if Ant protested on behalf of others then he is a fool. You set yourself up doing that.

[AK]

Originally Posted by Rattler

The whole situation stinks in my opinion - I think that the DD series is worse off because of this.

I heard no "murmors" in the paddock about Dom, yet it seems that a rider has been requested to protest another rider's bike because a non-rider asked him too. Can a non-rider request this???

I thought I was on the race committee but was not aware of any of this.

IMHO this is a personal attack that has been carried out through official channels and has no place in the DD.

Someone's got egg on their face this morning.

you are so right tim. my opinion too

I have been on about a procedure since last season when a couple of bikes we know now were not running 'legally' were on the grid - the DLS ones which are both out this year without their illegal components (I stand to be corrected if wrong tho)
yesterday just showed up the petty mindedness of 3 bigoted people (not antony, who was merely a pawn thinking he was doing the best for the club) to use their power to wield such a nasty suprise, one of whom wasnt even at the meeting - you know who you are.

I quite agree with any bikes being stripped, but for the right reasons, and this instance was not one of those IMHO.

When I helped out Chass by stripping his bike for him it didnt take me long to see that the bike had never been majorly stripped down, other than normal belts and plugs as you would expect to find.

The only good coming from this that I can see is that Dom has proved to be the best rider on a great bike that Chass has lovingly prepared within the rules.

spot on

We knew this before, but others (non-riders) it seemed were prepared to put personal agendas ahead of the best interests of the riders.

If I don't get a satisfactory response to my questions, I'm quitting as Rider's rep - no great loss to the powers that be I'm sure. There has been so much **** going on behind the scenes, but this seems to in my opinion to potentially "disrepute" the whole series.

The series should be run for the best interests of the riders, not to meet the personal objectives of a few non-elected individuals. A democracy or a dictatorship?

Tim

again, so right.

you helped us out this week with the petty politics so we could have both and not just one bike on the grid.
thanks mate

dont go - but if you do - I want to know where you will be racing as we will come too, as we both feel as you do

[Jon]

I turn my back for 5mins and look what happens. All very sad indeed

Now will someone kindly put the results up please

PS If Chas/Dom bike is the fastest legal bike out there, can I have first refusal on it please.

[Fordie]

Lads, this has made interesting reading, what is pleasing though and it shines through here,that most of the DD riders have a great deal of respect and tolerance of each other that I commend. I hope that by talking, as you have done on this board and no one has made an attempt at slacking or "loosing it" Mistakes have been made and trust maybe lost, I think in the future people should be more careful what there say and how they say it. We all have I own lifes to led, we all have our problems to bear maybe we could all go to Cadwell , have another Hog Roast. We'll all put a name in a hat and the winner will be lunch , just an idea. 4D

[AK]

Originally Posted by Fordie

we could all go to Cadwell and a have another Hog Roast We'll all put a name in a hat and the winner will be lunch , just an idea. 4D

what a good idea

[domski]

Originally Posted by Fordie

we could all go to Cadwell , have another Hog Roast. We'll all put a name in a hat and the winner will be lunch , just an idea. 4D

Plans are afoot already Pete

'cept we're looking at an indian alternative - and I don't mean transferring your phone calls

More to follow

[Chaz]

Originally Posted by Jon

I turn my back for 5mins and look what happens. All very sad indeed

Now will someone kindly put the results up please

PS If Chas/Dom bike is the fastest legal bike out there, can I have first refusal on it please.

Make me an offer, do you want it in kit form or rebuilt.

[Henners]

... enter it in the Modified Ducati's Competition ... oh sorry, you can't can you?!?