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[twpd]

Rich you should be aware that some time ago a comment was passed on this board about someone runing 800 camshafts...I can't remember who said it and it was in jest..it might even have been Dom - so, my point is that it's quite easy to see how the question of 800 cams would crop up.

Secondly - as you are undoubtedly aware - Dom was pulled up for running a SuperCorsa at some stage (Snetterton I belive).

It's against such a background that it doesn't take a genius to see how people can draw conclusions no matter how erroneous they are.

Originally Posted by louigi

A person from the managment team rang me on Friday asking for information about camshaft lift measurement, this i couldnt answer, but was alerted that the rumor in the paddock was that somone was running 800 camshafts? I invited such person to strip my bike and check the lift of cam lobes to compare with the said illigal bike. This was not to happen, but the rumor was actually about the other Louigi Moto bike. I was asked by the management team member "what had been done to Doms bike" My reply was "only normal servicing"
They obviously didnt belive what I had said, Did they think I would lie to them? Not sure, but I thrive on my reputation.
I think this whole saga has caused me personly a lot of wasted time as now I have to reassemble a perfectly good bike, when I should be working, trying to earn a living.

[domski]

Originally Posted by twpd

Rich you should be aware that some time ago a comment was passed on this board about someone runing 800 camshafts...I can't remember who said it and it was in jest..it might even have been Dom - so, my point is that it's quite easy to see how the question of 800 cams would crop up.

OK, how about this...

Jeez, how lucky was it that I was running a light flywheel

Anyone gunna protest that one? Just in case like.

Secondly - as you are undoubtedly aware - Dom was pulled up for running a SuperCorsa at some stage (Snetterton I belive).

Diablo Corsa actually... as a result of seeing them on other bikes at previous rounds.

Although I lost my points.

What happened when Geoff Spencer ran a 680 big bore kit at Cadwell (and everyone knew before the race started!) and won both races? I believe he kept his points and even had his bike made legal - paid for by Ducati UK - according to Baines themselves (as I was told by another reputable DD rider who spoke to Baines afterwards).

It's against such a background that it doesn't take a genius to see how people can draw conclusions no matter how erroneous they are.

The simple fact is Nige, that I pi$$ed PJ off. Nothing else.

Everything that happened on the day and in the build up to the meeting proves this. Things were said on the day that also back all this up. Anything else is pure conjecture.

Those are the facts!

[twpd]

Originally Posted by domski

OK, how about this...

Jeez, how lucky was it that I was running a light flywheel

Anyone gunna protest that one? Just in case like.

But that is exactly how rumours start Dom. That is the point I am making although coming from you....

Diablo Corsa actually... as a result of seeing them on other bikes at previous rounds.

It doesn't matter what tyre it was - only that it wasn't permitted. Sure you did your time but, again the point I make is that people will draw conclusions from those episodes so, in context, it become easy and obvious how you may be accused of cheating.

What happened when Geoff Spencer ran a 680 big bore kit at Cadwell (and everyone knew before the race started!) and won both races? I believe he kept his points and even had his bike made legal - paid for by Ducati UK - according to Baines themselves (as I was told by another reputable DD rider who spoke to Baines afterwards).

That's a rumour. It is not substantiated. You need material evidence. Material evidence is precisely why the bike was stripped.

The simple fact is Nige, that I pi$$ed PJ off. Nothing else.

If that is the case then it's a poor show indeed. If, however, your bike was stripped because there was good reason to believe you were cheating then it's understandable.

Here's a bit of rational thought for the lynch mob. Now please read what I say properly before jumping on a bandwagon - I am an impartial observer with no axe to grind.

1. Dom has previously infringed the rules & should have known better - known fact.
2. Dom is doing much better than last year when he was nowhere - known fact
3. Dom is winning the championship - known fact
4. Dom has made comments about 800 camshaft (we'll assume it's a known fact - winging it but stay with me on this)
5. Rumours circulating in the paddock re. cheating going on - known fact

The point I am making is that it's an easy and understandable conclusion to come to that Dom might be cheating.

It's a crying shame that someone might use this sort of situation to their advantage with an alternative personal agenda motivating them - nonetheless it is easy to see how rumours of cheating can exist.

[domski]

Originally Posted by twpd

I am an impartial observer with no axe to grind.

Is that an axe grinder I can see behind you?

2. Dom is doing much better than last year when he was nowhere - known fact

It's also a known fact that I had a slow bike last year, and my previous form (albeit a few year ago) proves that I am a good racer - or was - and now am again

3. Dom is winning the championship - known fact

Yes I did

4. Dom has made comments about 800 camshaft

I've said rude things about the RC too, but nobody has protested - what's your point

The point I am making is that it's an easy and understandable conclusion to come to that Dom might be cheating.

Not judging by what's been said on here - and in the paddock, but I can see how you're thinking what you're thinking. You're being sensible again aren't you!

It's a crying shame that someone might use this sort of situation to their advantage with an alternative personal agenda motivating them - nonetheless it is easy to see how rumours of cheating can exist.

Uh huh

[twpd]

Originally Posted by domski

You're being sensible again aren't you!

Are you insulting me again.


Seriously though, with all the feathers flying it is very easy to lose sight of things and rational thought goes out of the window. All I am trying to do is present an alternative view of things.

[andys 900ss]

Thanks Dom, maybe nice to have something to show for it tho???

Andy

[domski]

Originally Posted by andys 900ss

Thanks Dom, maybe nice to have something to show for it tho???

Andy

Yeah, sorry for being protested and that

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