Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > DSC Membership ? POLL

[Tonio600]

Originally Posted by Urban996

When I was a non-member I thought I was a reasonable rider... then I met the BHCN crew...

Is that where Fil2's coming from? poor you

I understand you point about Pronto, hard to write something when we don't have anything to say... My problem was more with the "if Pronto is like this that's because of one person" thing...

In boxing that would be a kick in the beewax : totally wrong and unfair

[MJS]

Originally Posted by Tonio600

Is that where Fil2's coming from? poor you

Yes, Fil2 was one of the first people I met in the DSC, made me very welcome on my first ride - then blew straight past into the distance ...

But all the guys n gals from BHCN are nice people, I just wish I could out to ride with them more

[Lily]

FWIW


As a new person I would say to join up to see if it is for you and to get the benefits that many of us have already had. The club is (mostly) full of great people with a passion for ducatis. The events are great fun and the banter when you get to know people is brilliant.

As an existing member I have rejoined, I can't exactly say why tbh but as a paid up member I would like to pass a quick comment on the pronto issue if I may without hijacking this thread further than it already is.

Please note that I do not expect to be flamed for this, it is my view, not particularly controversial, just facts as I see them.

At the AGM the cost of Pronto was highlighted and frankly I think it shocked many of us as it was clearly the most expensive part of the club. There were many comments that align to the many comments on the forum about the value of pronto and how it could be done better and or cheaper.

I recognise, as do many, the value of non web based communication and indeed have enjoyed some of the issues of pronto. My beef is not so much with who writes the content but with it's value in it's current form.

At the AGM I openly, then in private offered my time to assist in looking at alternatives or changes to pronto to either reduce the cost of club communication whilst at the same time see if we could improve it.

I was not requesting MT status, was not even looking for recognition by shouting about it, I just wanted to help the club rather than just be a moaner.

After hearing nothing for some time I extended my offer again to a number of club individuals and once again was informed I would hear from them.

To this date I have heard nothing and it grates on me every time I see a comment from certain individuals about how hard it is to keep the club running about how much time it takes and about how it would be better if people were helping.

I have offered to help and have been ignored. I now do my best to avoid any post where my comments may get misconstrued or seen as anti DSC as quite clearly I am not.

For information, my real day job is as a Business Transformation Manager. I look at businesses and identify how things can be improved, money better spent and customer satisfaction improved. I feel I may have been quite useful as a resource to this club had anybody anted my help.

[Tonio600]

now that's an interesting post

[Athelstan]

"A Sense Of Belonging"

Any organistion be it a club, charity, company, plc etc., regardless of whether it's "workforce" is entirely voluntary and unpaid, part-time, fulltime, salaried etc., has a duty to those who buy its products. One of those many "duties" is to improve. And it matters not whether you pay 1p or 100p per day - that payment is a sign of the trust and the value you place in the organisation.

That value is reflected each and every time a member posts; each will have different view on what the DSC should deliver (and how it delivers it - hard or soft media - meetings - track days - merchandising etc).

Occassionally comments have been made re the "DSC" that have been interpretted as negative, and, have not been seen by the MT as a signpost that something is amiss.

Many people have offered help, input, advise, labour, ideas etc. to the MT, but it does appear from many posts that unless your input is rosy red and not gaudy yellow, the MT responds with "piquer" as they would say in Tonio's "L'echo des Conti".

It is the responsibility of those in office (the MT) to take onboard the memberships comments, to seek out the rational behind them, and forge them back into an improved DSC "product". That is one of their responsibilities of office. To reach out to those members offering their services, knowledge and time to achieve that constant state of improvement.

As an example - it is no sense appealing for folks to come forward if you either do not respond to them or do not give them a fair hearing and feedback.

A sign that all is not as it could be is the fact that we see daily folks posting here who are not paid members. Additionally you have all of those "ex members" who did not renew memberships and have left altogether. These two items alone are another alarm bell ringing that should not be ignored.

No one has a monoploy on good ideas, and no one is perfect. But together improvement does not remain a dream, it becomes an achievable goal.

[psychlist]

Originally Posted by Athelstan

"A Sense Of Belonging"

Any organistion be it a club, charity, company, plc etc., regardless of whether it's "workforce" is entirely voluntary and unpaid, part-time, fulltime, salaried etc., has a duty to those who buy its products. One of those many "duties" is to improve. And it matters not whether you pay 1p or 100p per day - that payment is a sign of the trust and the value you place in the organisation.

That value is reflected each and every time a member posts; each will have different view on what the DSC should deliver (and how it delivers it - hard or soft media - meetings - track days - merchandising etc).

Occassionally comments have been made re the "DSC" that have been interpretted as negative, and, have not been seen by the MT as a signpost that something is amiss.

Many people have offered help, input, advise, labour, ideas etc. to the MT, but it does appear from many posts that unless your input is rosy red and not gaudy yellow, the MT responds with "piquer" as they would say in Tonio's "L'echo des Conti".

It is the responsibility of those in office (the MT) to take onboard the memberships comments, to seek out the rational behind them, and forge them back into an improved DSC "product". That is one of their responsibilities of office. To reach out to those members offering their services, knowledge and time to achieve that constant state of improvement.

As an example - it is no sense appealing for folks to come forward if you either do not respond to them or do not give them a fair hearing and feedback.

A sign that all is not as it could be is the fact that we see daily folks posting here who are not paid members. Additionally you have all of those "ex members" who did not renew memberships and have left altogether. These two items alone are another alarm bell ringing that should not be ignored.

No one has a monoploy on good ideas, and no one is perfect. But together improvement does not remain a dream, it becomes an achievable goal.

Excellent summary!

[TP]

Originally Posted by Athelstan

"A Sense Of Belonging"

Any organistion be it a club, charity, company, plc etc., regardless of whether it's "workforce" is entirely voluntary and unpaid, part-time, fulltime, salaried etc., has a duty to those who buy its products. One of those many "duties" is to improve. And it matters not whether you pay 1p or 100p per day - that payment is a sign of the trust and the value you place in the organisation.

That value is reflected each and every time a member posts; each will have different view on what the DSC should deliver (and how it delivers it - hard or soft media - meetings - track days - merchandising etc).

Occassionally comments have been made re the "DSC" that have been interpretted as negative, and, have not been seen by the MT as a signpost that something is amiss.

Many people have offered help, input, advise, labour, ideas etc. to the MT, but it does appear from many posts that unless your input is rosy red and not gaudy yellow, the MT responds with "piquer" as they would say in Tonio's "L'echo des Conti".

It is the responsibility of those in office (the MT) to take onboard the memberships comments, to seek out the rational behind them, and forge them back into an improved DSC "product". That is one of their responsibilities of office. To reach out to those members offering their services, knowledge and time to achieve that constant state of improvement.

As an example - it is no sense appealing for folks to come forward if you either do not respond to them or do not give them a fair hearing and feedback.

A sign that all is not as it could be is the fact that we see daily folks posting here who are not paid members. Additionally you have all of those "ex members" who did not renew memberships and have left altogether. These two items alone are another alarm bell ringing that should not be ignored.

No one has a monoploy on good ideas, and no one is perfect. But together improvement does not remain a dream, it becomes an achievable goal.

That is an excellent post, very well written.

It's a real shame that it will fall on jaded and cynical deaf ears where it's needed the most.

[psychlist]

Originally Posted by TP

It's a real shame that it will fall on jaded and cynical deaf ears where it's needed the most.

Not true, its an ethos I, for one, wholeheartedly support and try my best to live up to all the time

[TP]

Originally Posted by psychlist

Not true, its an ethos I, for one, wholeheartedly support and try my best to live up to all the time

I know Paul, I wasn't referring to you

[Jools]

Athelstan, that's a great post. Along with Paul I also share that view.

When I was elected to the MT I wrote out what I aimed to do as regional coordinator. One of the bullet points, and the one which I do my utmost to adhere to was:

- Act as the voice of the members within the management team (not as the voice of the management team to the membership - there's a big difference)

Anyone can read the full post - it's a 'sticky' in the regional organisers forum. I can't pretend that I've delivered everything I set out to do, but it's not for the want of trying.

Ultimately, I was voted onto the MT and I can be voted off if the members decide I haven't done enough, but I am comitted to working hard on their behalf to make the club better in whatever way I can.