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Old 25-Sep-2006, 17:37   #1
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Lets not make a mountain out of a molehill again.

Apologies for being the person to point this out but Ian and Chris have just contradicted each other. Chris, you explained that DUK provided the trophies so what trophies did the club pay for?

As I said at the AGM, and have reiterated since, the money spent on bringing the DUK truck to Brands last year was a potential boon for the club and I'm in favour of spending money in a marketing capacity for the club - not just for DD as a whole but for the wider membership. The issue was the fact that we were told that no club funds were spent on DD only to find the item in the accounts attributed to DD.

That's my take anyway.

I think he means dinner dance trophies, and there were race shirts for the "Does your boss know" awards. :-)
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Old 25-Sep-2006, 17:39   #2
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I think he means dinner dance trophies, and there were race shirts for the "Does your boss know" awards. :-)

The DD trophies handed out I can understand being attributed to DD. But not the posting etc awards, they should have been allocated to something other than the race series.

But that's a minor accounting issue. I guess the major point is not necessarily that the money has been spent. It's that people aren't aware of where their money is being spent and take issue with being told that money isn't being spent on something only to find it in the accounts later.

But hey, I've done this to death and I'm not trying to wake a slumbering beast.
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Old 25-Sep-2006, 17:43   #3
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The DD trophies handed out I can understand being attributed to DD. But not the posting etc awards, they should have been allocated to something other than the race series.

But that's a minor accounting issue. I guess the major point is not necessarily that the money has been spent. It's that people aren't aware of where their money is being spent and take issue with being told that money isn't being spent on something only to find it in the accounts later.

But hey, I've done this to death and I'm not trying to wake a slumbering beast.

But you've hit the nail on the head - I'm happy with the way my £20 is spent, but I don't expect to find people saying that I shouldn't have an opinion (if I wanted one) on a race series organised by the club because none of the money i contribute is being spent on it - when plainly it is.
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Old 25-Sep-2006, 17:49   #4
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But you've hit the nail on the head - I'm happy with the way my £20 is spent, but I don't expect to find people saying that I shouldn't have an opinion (if I wanted one) on a race series organised by the club because none of the money i contribute is being spent on it - when plainly it is.

Sorry mate, I haven't said anything to do with that comment. My point has been about being told your money is being spent on one thing, only to find out differently in the accounts ...

But to address what you've said, I think involvement from the non-DD participating DSC members is good, but I also am of the belief that the people spending their £1000's on racing deserve more say on matters that directly affect them and their wallets.

Again, just my take
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Old 25-Sep-2006, 17:52   #5
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But you've hit the nail on the head - I'm happy with the way my £20 is spent, but I don't expect to find people saying that I shouldn't have an opinion (if I wanted one) on a race series organised by the club because none of the money i contribute is being spent on it - when plainly it is.

who is saying that.?
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Old 25-Sep-2006, 17:58   #6
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who is saying that.?

you have u2u
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Old 25-Sep-2006, 18:01   #7
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We seemed to have steered away from DD into a 'how does the club spend it's money debate?'

My memory is clear.
Stickers - for DSC and DD racers.
Set up costs for DD - to get the series going.
DUK truck - at Brands.

As long as all items were part of the DSC core activities, that's the elected MT's role to decide on who/how and what the money is spent on.

Fair deal all round.
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Old 25-Sep-2006, 18:21   #8
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We seemed to have steered away from DD into a 'how does the club spend it's money debate?'

My memory is clear.
Stickers - for DSC and DD racers.
Set up costs for DD - to get the series going.
DUK truck - at Brands.

As long as all items were part of the DSC core activities, that's the elected MT's role to decide on who/how and what the money is spent on.

Fair deal all round.

Exactamundo as I recall, this got done to death at the AGM.

DSC spends money on DSC activities shock, horror, probe................

The MT is mandated to splash the cash by the membership.


Don't try to explain it only makes matters worse is due another airing??


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...364565,00.html

If you can't be bothered to read the whole article this seems to sum things up pretty well

"the essence of democracy is the acceptance that you can’t always have it all your own way. And the test of your commitment to pluralism is accepting the right of others to differ"

Think on,


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Old 25-Sep-2006, 19:19   #9
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Ray, you talking sense like that completely spoils a good discussion/argument.......

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Old 25-Sep-2006, 19:38   #10
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Well so far everones behaved themselves and we hav'nt had a slacking match thats got to be a first
A long long time ago when all this DDing was in its infancy I remember thinking Wow members of this club would get the oppotunity to go out and race each other on track, no that (correct me if im wrong)was a first . The first race at Cadwell saw "what you bring, you race" all sorts of bikes put together basically by the individual members . Some bikes were more profesional than other ,it did'nt matter, everone was there for the same reason,to get out on track and RACE. A lot of work was then put into "developing" a better bike, as we saw the "Profesional" "factory bikes tearing of down the field ahead of our own DSC members all out for the reason of racing fellow club member. So more money and effort was needed to keep competitive, not by one but by all. I don't think any one can say racing is not expensive even in our own club series, I was very suprised when I found out how much each race weekend was for the riders let alone the back up teams. Its fair to say that if you are prepared to go out and do this sort of thing then you should be committed to a certain amount of "expenses" Some people will no doubt spend more than others in there pursuit of competition and enjoyment.
As for the "should the DD go out to other's" What came first the chicken or the egg, well in this case the DSC came first and it was the DSC that brought the DD to fruittion, I personally think the DD is the Racing section of the DSC and should remain so. Long live the DesmoDue Long live Freedom and Democracy and if any one objects Ill shoot the ******s 4D
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