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[TP]

Originally Posted by andyb

3 wsb titles in 4 years, with 3 different riders, against 1000cc opposition,.............god it is a **** bike, lets have a new model!

Change the record you big goose!

The Ducati's would be nowhere without the extra tuning they're allowed over the IL4's so it's not a level playing field. Even with THE MAN riding it.

It's a very good road bike though, even if it is ugly

The best thing for Ducati in WSB will be the rules being changed to allow the twins to have more capacity and bring the tuning rules inline with the IL4's. Just my opinion mind ...

[andyb]

Originally Posted by TP

Change the record you big goose!

The Ducati's would be nowhere without the extra tuning they're allowed over the IL4's so it's not a level playing field. Even with THE MAN riding it.

It's a very good road bike though, even if it is ugly

The best thing for Ducati in WSB will be the rules being changed to allow the twins to have more capacity and bring the tuning rules inline with the IL4's. Just my opinion mind ...

I think my record is a valid point......... 3 different riders n all that! when it goes to 1200 cc thatll be like going back to the 750 inl4's, so your level playing field is even less level!

[TP]

Originally Posted by andyb

I think my record is a valid point......... 3 different riders n all that! when it goes to 1200 cc thatll be like going back to the 750 inl4's, so your level playing field is even less level!

Hrmm ... I'm not really following your logic there. ... but you go for it!

[Twinfan]

It's nothing to do with the tuning the Dukes are allowed - even with that level they're still way down on power. It's the MotoGP ECU that's costing a fortune to buy and setup for each race to get the absolute maximum out of what they have. If they had more power they wouldn't need such sophisticated electronics and they could rely on old school BHP like the IL4s.

[TP]

Originally Posted by Twinfan

It's nothing to do with the tuning the Dukes are allowed - even with that level they're still way down on power. It's the MotoGP ECU that's costing a fortune to buy and setup for each race to get the absolute maximum out of what they have. If they had more power they wouldn't need such sophisticated electronics and they could rely on old school BHP like the IL4s.

That's my point - not wanting to bandy semantics but adding the ECU and electronics etc IS tuning

[Twinfan]

So are they allowed more electronics than the IL4s? I know they're allowed more scope within engine internals, but I thought everyone can run whatever ECU with traction control etc? The Suzukis certainly have a top spec system.

[749er]

I thought it came down to litres per second of air flow, as the metric used to ensure the playing field was even. From memory the maximum is 14,000litre per minute or something or other, which means that you can add fuel at only one given flow rate as you need to keep the engine form running lean or rich to get maximum torque/power. In order to get to that flow rate, the Ducatis have to have more expensive mechanical components within the engine. Hence the cost. Bigger engine = same flow rate at lower cost and keeps the playing field even. Last time I was at Silverstone Haga's bike was 9km/h quicker than Bayliss' on the straight, but Bayliss must have been quicker elsewhere to set pole, and the win one of the races. Some of that is him, but as Andy says, 3 different riders so part of it is down to the beautiful 999.