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Old 09-Oct-2006, 14:30
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At present Paul James and myself are the MT represenatives on the RC, carrying on until the AGM. The MT will confirm who from the MT will be on the RC after the AGM.

so is this set in stone and cannot be changed?
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Old 09-Oct-2006, 15:24
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so is this set in stone and cannot be changed?

If ALL the riders want a new RC - like they ALL agreed on Saturday evening, then surely they must be listened to.

After all, there won't be a series to be RC'd without riders.
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Old 09-Oct-2006, 18:59
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If ALL the riders want a new RC - like they ALL agreed on Saturday evening, then surely they must be listened to.

After all, there won't be a series to be RC'd without riders.

Interesting spin on that Dom.....'and no series without an RC.'

Not sure on the use of ALL in your description....

I agree their is some dissatisfaction with certain elements of the series management.....but....easy on the use of ALL.

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Old 09-Oct-2006, 19:38
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Interesting spin on that Dom.....'and no series without an RC.'

Actually, there can be a series without the RC. You were at the meeting weren't you Chris?

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Not sure on the use of ALL in your description....

I agree their is some dissatisfaction with certain elements of the series management.....but....easy on the use of ALL.

????

Unless I'm hugely mistaken, even you agreed that the RC ought to be replaced.

Maybe I was in another meeting???
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Old 09-Oct-2006, 19:50
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What it means Tim, is that at the moment the RC thing appears to be completely undefined. If you're talking about doing things through official channels then, according to point 6b of the minutes from the last AGM, an EGM can be called for by 50 fully paid up members putting a 'demand' in writing, stating the business to be discussed. The notice for an EGM currently stands at 30 days. It will change to 60 if the new draft constitution is adopted, but that isn't going to be for well over a month so now's the time to act if you want something done in time for next season, as far as I can see.
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What it means Tim, is that at the moment the RC thing appears to be completely undefined. If you're talking about doing things through official channels then, according to point 6b of the minutes from the last AGM, an EGM can be called for by 50 fully paid up members putting a 'demand' in writing, stating the business to be discussed. The notice for an EGM currently stands at 30 days. It will change to 60 if the new draft constitution is adopted, but that isn't going to be for well over a month so now's the time to act if you want something done in time for next season, as far as I can see.

Thanks Ruth, so if I get 50 members who, like me, are looking for transparency of how the RC is elected, I can call an EGM and the MT will be required to answer my questions relating to this?

Or could they just simply respond to this thread? Save a lot of hassle wouldn't it? Unless there's skeletons!!!

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Yep. And votes are determined by a simple majority, with the Chair having a casting vote in the event of a tie.
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Thanks Ruth, so if I get 50 members who, like me, are looking for transparency of how the RC is elected, I can call an EGM and the MT will be required to answer my questions relating to this?

Or could they just simply respond to this thread? Save a lot of hassle wouldn't it? Unless there's skeletons!!!

Tim

Sorry, not my place in DD but i believe what is going on here has a major impact on this club and its future as a club rather than a race organisation.

Tim, you can't call an egm, the club currently runs under the rules as printed on the back of the membership form , no facility exists for any member or group of members to call an EGM unless MT agree to it..... One of the main reasons for the time and effort I put into the review was to allow the membership the opportunity to make changes when needed as the current rules totally prevent this.

Even if the new constitution is adopted ( actually its almost impossible for any MT proposal not to be adopted) it still does not go into the day to day running of club activities which have to be MT decisions and quorums and required number of MT votes are defined in the new document ( or they were on the last version I saw).

To really effect a change in the running of DD ( is that what the aim is??) you need to have a majority on the MT and be willing to have input into the rest of the club activities. A member of MT will represent the views of the DD racers but those views are passed via a sub committe ( riders reps), All of MT then make a decision on it considering that input, this is exactly how regions and events have their input and follows established club guidelines. To cover sub committees within the constitution review would have taken forever but could form part of another review at a later date if MT approved that review.


Greater transparency can only come from the MT member who represents DD. I would add that part of the review also required MT meeting minutes to be published within a set time frame which should help with this if its still in.
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