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I don't like this move, I don't like censorship of speech and opinion and I don't like some of the breath taking arrogance I see on this board.

The factions being created, egos being promoted and massaged, agendas being touted and vilified are ALL down to a few individuals whose primary consideration is DD and not the DSC.

Let's move the DD stuff to the DD board which Domski set up - that will solve Weeksy's (slightly edited) point – ‘i urge them to remove Dom from the DSC Board, that would sort 99% of the clubs' problem within 5 seconds’

It will take away a lot of the bickering that is mainly DD orientated.

Also those that have joined the DSC for DD and clearly don’t give a **** about the DSC can continue to whine away on that board

As for breathtaking arrogance;

‘lauging stock? i dont think so just beacause one person calls the DSC a laughing stock counts for nothing’.

It may not to you laddie but it counts a lot to me – especially when other people are in earshot and join in the conversation – why should I or any of us have to go on the defensive about the club – and, believe me, this wasn’t an isolated incident. While you are polishing your exhaust pipes some of us are still trying to get new members into the club.

Whele and I discussed running a DD team next year, I’ve been thinking about doing a bit of sponsorship – I saw Tim’s thread last night and thought I could help – guess what I have decided to do – you’re right nothing!

Let’s move DD to Domski’s board other than race reports and the schedule and get a link set up for dialogue from the main DSC board – I don’t want any of my subscription money being used to fund anything in DD please.

Finally please remove any moderation of anyone’s posting on this board. If the thread or post is DD related have it redirected to Domski or Domski’s board so they can continue their fights outside. I like the décor in here and I’d like it to stay undamaged please!

[dickieducati]

Originally Posted by everton[COLOR=black

Let's move the DD stuff to the DD board which Domski set up -

It will take away a lot of the bickering that is mainly DD orientated.

Also those that have joined the DSC for DD and clearly don’t give a **** about the DSC can continue to whine away on that board

As for breathtaking arrogance;

‘lauging stock? i dont think so just beacause one person calls the DSC a laughing stock counts for nothing’.

It may not to you laddie but it counts a lot to me – especially when other people are in earshot and join in the conversation – why should I or any of us have to go on the defensive about the club – and, believe me, this wasn’t an isolated incident. While you are polishing your exhaust pipes some of us are still trying to get new members into the club.

Whele and I discussed running a DD team next year, I’ve been thinking about doing a bit of sponsorship – I saw Tim’s thread last night and thought I could help – guess what I have decided to do – you’re right nothing!

Let’s move DD to Domski’s board other than race reports and the schedule and get a link set up for dialogue from the main DSC board – I don’t want any of my subscription money being used to fund anything in DD please.

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you seemed overjoyed when you had the option of DD or non DD in the todays post section but seem unable to use it.

breathtaking arrogance? hardly, was simply saying that just because one or even a few people think its is a laughing stock, there are plenty more out there who get into DSC purely because of DD.

why cant people just use the DSC for what they want? rideouts, meets, trips, dinner dances, bmf, DD etc. those that dont appeal dont get involved with. my main focus is DD at the moment, but i have done plenty of other activities and if i choose to stop doing DD i will do what other activities i fancy at the time. why cant other do the same.

[weeksyracing]

Dickie,

are the riders who join DD really DSC members ???

How many of the Non DSC guys who've joined the series actually join in outside of the series... LEts pick a few at Random.... and NO, i'm not getting at them, just making a point....

Couchie
Lucy
Andy Johnson
Ian Leah
Stumpy
Geoff Spencer
Dom
Kyle


OK, how many ride outs have these guys been on ? how many have helped out with Pronto Articles ? How many were at Poham Megameet, how many at BMF stand ???

Most of the Non DSC riders who join the series are not 'members' in anything other than the fact they joined here to race in the series.

So by saying "there are plenty more out there who get into DSC purely because of DD" is sort of negating the point.

If what Everton says is true, that we are losing members from potentially joining the series, then this is a bad thing... surely....

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[Harv748]

Originally Posted by weeksyracing

Dickie,

If what Everton says is true, that we are losing members from potentially joining the series, then this is a bad thing... surely....

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It isn't a matter of what if Steve...its fact...its already happening.

Its often the case regarding DD that people outside of the series feel they are not allowed to voice an opinion on things relating to it because we are not racing in it and therefore it does not directly relate to us. Of course that is true to some degree...I mean, what do I care if you have 1 or 2 grids...don't give a hoot, but I do give a **** when members of the club are talking with their feet and their wallets.

You only have to look at the response on the other thread from just a few of the silent majority whom are becoming more and more fed up with it all.

If the DD forum was set up for this very reason, why can't it be used now? It appears to me that it was tried for a while...but there is only so many arguments people can have with themselves...so it all came back on here!

If the DD posts where all on the DD forum the DSC site would be a better place at the moment.

Why can't this be done...the DD community seemed quite happy with this arrangement 9 months ago?

[Chaz]

Originally Posted by Harv748

It isn't a matter of what if Steve...its fact...its already happening.

Its often the case regarding DD that people outside of the series feel they are not allowed to voice an opinion on things relating to it because we are not racing in it and therefore it does not directly relate to us. Of course that is true to some degree...I mean, what do I care if you have 1 or 2 grids...don't give a hoot, but I do give a **** when members of the club are talking with their feet and their wallets.

You only have to look at the response on the other thread from just a few of the silent minority whom are becoming more and more fed up with it all.

If the DD forum was set up for this very reason, why can't it be used now? It appears to me that it was tried for a while...but there is only so many arguments people can have with themselves...so it all came back on here!

If the DD posts where all on the DD forum the DSC site would be a better place at the moment.

Why can't this be done...the DD community seemed quite happy with this arrangement 9 months ago?

It's obvious you forgot to press the write option button under todays posts

*edited to show quotes correctly - only - Frank

[Harv748]

Constructive reply Chass.

So how do you suggest we stop current/new members from leaving/not joining?

My opinion is that with winter coming and all of the internal wrangling that is bound to happen over the next 4-5 months regarding the structuring of DD...it could/should all be dealt with elsewhere...don't see whats wrong with that?

[CK]

Weeksy, there are plenty who join just for 'one thing'
When I joined I was ONLY interested in meets & rideouts - as likewise quite a number of members still are.
AK was wanting to do trackdays, but he can 'take or leave' rideouts.
Many others never use the forum, but just do trackdays or just attend socials.
This is what makes a good eclectic mix in the club - it would be sad if everyone liked the same thing - imagine 600+ members ALL wanting to do the club only TD's, or the same number wanting to race.
Yes, Andy J joined to race - we asked him - he was happy to. Has posted a few times on here, and also given others quite a bit of help in the paddock - particularly last year - in setting up suspension etc, or tips for newbies.

I do agree things have to move on from this though (as I said yesterday) and I do think the club is big enough for everyone to get something (however large or small, however insular) out of it, though I do disagree with the draconian measures put into place this morning.

now, off to ride my bike in the sunshine

[TP]

Originally Posted by Harv748

Constructive reply Chass.

So how do you suggest we stop current/new members from leaving/not joining?

My opinion is that with winter coming and all of the internal wrangling that is bound to happen over the next 4-5 months regarding the structuring of DD...it could/should all be dealt with elsewhere...don't see whats wrong with that?

Instead of just relocating the arguing etc, why don't we resolve the issues?

[Paul James]

This has cost me a double thickness Nomex suit but hey it must be worth it.

I suggest that to put an end to this ongoing, non productive back and forth that we hold a meeting that is open to any DSC member interested in putting their points forward for proper discussion regarding the Desmo Due series. Not just a small group, not just the MT, not just the RC but ANY member with a true interest in putting this to bed.

We can resolve this even if it means a darn good row to clear the air. This isn't the place to do it and it isn't the only place we need to make the offer of a meeting. It will need to go into Pronto to be fair to all.

Anybody else got the will to do this and stop the bickering on these forums ? If not then I have to ask why not if you have the best interest of the club and DD at heart ?

We (DSC) will run the series again next year and at the outset the riders and those offering to help will all know what is expected of you, the RC will all know what is expected of them.

So. Copy and paste if you want to genuinely see it sorted !!!


Paul James

[TP]

I can't believe we are resorting to this level of censorship.

And after we'd made such good progress - uncensoring the word bugger!

bugger bugger bugger bugger!!!!

Well this thread needs some humour ... I really do hope that we can reconsider this, despite the fact that we don't all agree on other things to resort to this is draconian. 1984 anyone?