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Old 12-Oct-2006, 12:36
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I think Phil hit the nail on the head up there ^^^ Most of us don't actually have a clue about what the problem is so not certain I would want to attend a meeting to discuss something i don't know. On the other hand, i don't want to see DD or the DSC go pear shaped and I have a lot of respect for the racers, the people trying to organise one way or another as well as the general DSC.

How about a list of what the key issues are, what the official approach to resolving these should be and then a REAL approach to resolving them **

If they cannot be resolved for a genuine reason then all parties agree to let them lie and get on with the racing.

It is perfectly possible to do this in an adult and open manner within the DD section of this forum or the alternative DD forum.

One single thread that 'could' be moderated by a non involved individual to ensure that it does not get out of hand and there is no personal issues brought up. It could even be managed initially with the racers/others being allowed to send their comments/issues to the nominated individual then collated and posted for all to review before discussion is underway. This would allow the individual to go back to others for questioing or clarity of a point make sure it is unambiguous when posted.

**(without resorting to slanderous comments against individuals)

Great concept in an ideal world Lily but not everyone who has an opinion uses the forum, nor should they have to just to make their opinions known. Face to face has to be the best way, anybody with enough interest to try and improve things for the benefit of the next season won't mind coming to a meeting to sort it IMHO. It gives everyone an equal chance.


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Old 12-Oct-2006, 12:58
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Actually PJ, I think you should start a new thread for meeting attendees. The title (and contents) of this one is likely to deter some interested parties from seeing the list.

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And I think there should be an publicised agenda for the meeting that is put forward by the members and moderated by an interested party who is not a member of the RC or MT.

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Old 12-Oct-2006, 13:04
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Actually PJ, I think you should start a new thread for meeting attendees. The title (and contents) of this one is likely to deter some interested parties from seeing the list.

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And I think there should be an publicised agenda for the meeting that is put forward by the members and moderated by an interested party who is not a member of the RC or MT.

We can publish an agenda if people want to email in their requirements, we just don't need to keep the arguing in open forum if we have a perfectly reasonable alternative.

Take your point and will do what you suggest but the main way of putting this idea out to ALL the members who may be interested is via Pronto. May have a chance of getting it in to the next issue if I get on to Ian right now.


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And I think there should be an publicised agenda for the meeting that is put forward by the members and moderated by an interested party who is not a member of the RC or MT.

(edit) And the meeting Chaired by an interested party who is not a member of the RC or MT.
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Old 12-Oct-2006, 13:11
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(edit) And the meeting Chaired by an interested party who is not a member of the RC or MT.

Good idea in theory but requires someone with no ties from either perspective who is viewed as being "neutral", specifically regarding DD. Whoever it is will have to ensure that all the DD related points are listened to, everybody with a genuine interest will be there so its hardly going to be cloak and dagger is it.

I suggest Eamonn as although he is on the MT he is not controversial and is well respected. (won't be getting a Chrimbo card from him this year then )


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Good idea in theory but requires someone with no ties from either perspective who is viewed as being "neutral", specifically regarding DD. Whoever it is will have to ensure that all the DD related points are listened to, everybody with a genuine interest will be there so its hardly going to be cloak and dagger is it.

I suggest Eamonn as although he is on the MT he is not controversial and is well respected. (won't be getting a Chrimbo card from him this year then )

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Good idea in theory but requires someone with no ties from either perspective who is viewed as being "neutral", specifically regarding DD.

Ah, well there's the rub. But it's not an impossible task to find somebody... if there is the will...

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Whoever it is will have to ensure that all the DD related points are listened to, everybody with a genuine interest will be there so its hardly going to be cloak and dagger is it.

I suggest Eamonn as although he is on the MT he is not controversial and is well respected.

Except... that disregards the apparent level of suspicion from some of the participants. If you are going to do this, it would be worthless if it could be accused of being a white wash - that the MT manipulated the agenda. It's not a question of would or wouldn't - as long as both parties have faith in the transparency of the independent Chair and as long as the Chair is not a member of the MT.
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(edit) And the meeting Chaired by an interested party who is not a member of the RC or MT.

From what I've seen on here you need Madmav to chair it with a few of his mates as ' moderators '
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