Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > Is Henners Banned from posting ?

[Lily]

Originally Posted by aka.eric

This annoys me,if a persons not a member its got sod all to do with them.Posting should be a privilege of membership.Hopefully one day Henners will be an active member again,but the above reply is only "fanning the flames",for nonsense on other sites.:-

"I get the feeling one might be going down soon the way the politics and the personal agendas are going.......It's become a bit of a joke over there sadly."
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aka JPM

Eric

This board allows members and non members to have an opinion and this is what Jon has shared. I am unclear why you have singled this post out at this point in time.

Jon has been involved on this forum for over 5 years and has been involved with and contributed to the DSC in many ways. He choses not to be a member at prsent as he does not feel he gets any value from it, that is his choice similar to many others that have done likewise. Jon still attends and helps to organise events which include DSC members and ducati enthusiasts including DD related activities.

I am uncertain as to why you highlighted his comments which were fair and representative of what had been posted by many other members and non members alike.

As for quoting from a post on DUN, maybe it would have been more appropriate to have pointed out that the post on DUN was started by someone with no connection to DSC that had been over here and was suprised by what he saw. There were a few comments from individuals that have been disheartened by DSC but also a few comments requesting that it not be discussed. No flames were fanned, indeed the thread sank quite happily with no bitching or nastiness.

It would appear that your quoting on here will fan more flames than the original comment ever would have.

[aka.eric]

Originally Posted by Lily

Eric

This board allows members and non members to have an opinion and this is what Jon has shared. I am unclear why you have singled this post out at this point in time.

Jon has been involved on this forum for over 5 years and has been involved with and contributed to the DSC in many ways. He choses not to be a member at prsent as he does not feel he gets any value from it, that is his choice similar to many others that have done likewise. Jon still attends and helps to organise events which include DSC members and ducati enthusiasts including DD related activities.

I am uncertain as to why you highlighted his comments which were fair and representative of what had been posted by many other members and non members alike.

As for quoting from a post on DUN, maybe it would have been more appropriate to have pointed out that the post on DUN was started by someone with no connection to DSC that had been over here and was suprised by what he saw. There were a few comments from individuals that have been disheartened by DSC but also a few comments requesting that it not be discussed. No flames were fanned, indeed the thread sank quite happily with no bitching or nastiness.

It would appear that your quoting on here will fan more flames than the original comment ever would have.

If an individual chooses not to be a member because "he does not feel he gets any value from it",then thats what he should say,not make derogatory comments about was is still the most informative,well organised Ducati club/site available,in my opinion.Maybe its not perfect neither is the world but,it exists because a small number of people give up a large amount of their time,and the membership pay subs.I and no doubt a lot more folks a grateful.

[Lily]

Originally Posted by aka.eric

If an individual chooses not to be a member because "he does not feel he gets any value from it",then thats what he should say,not make derogatory comments about was is still the most informative,well organised Ducati club/site available,in my opinion.Maybe its not perfect neither is the world but,it exists because a small number of people give up a large amount of their time,and the membership pay subs.I and no doubt a lot more folks a grateful.

Can you please show me wher JPM made a derogatory comment in the post you originally quoted.

I believe this is what he posted and you quoted:

Frank,

There's no mention of moderation in the above????? Surely Henners can be allowed to post then? This does mean you could delete the post immediately obviously, would this be correct?


This is actually a question for clarification and in no way derogatory.

Sadly whether you feel he should say that as he is not a member he cannot make comments is irrelevent as the forum is open to all to have an opinion. When that changes then non members can be told what they can and cannot do and your personal views will be satisfied. In the past the majority of members have opted to retain the forum as open to both members and non members alike.

Jon is still trying to add value to this club irrespecitive of his membership status

[aka.eric]

Originally Posted by Lily

Can you please show me wher JPM made a derogatory comment in the post you originally quoted.

I believe this is what he posted and you quoted:

Frank,

There's no mention of moderation in the above????? Surely Henners can be allowed to post then? This does mean you could delete the post immediately obviously, would this be correct?


This is actually a question for clarification and in no way derogatory.

Sadly whether you feel he should say that as he is not a member he cannot make comments is irrelevent as the forum is open to all to have an opinion. When that changes then non members can be told what they can and cannot do and your personal views will be satisfied. In the past the majority of members have opted to retain the forum as open to both members and non members alike.

Jon is still trying to add value to this club irrespecitive of his membership status

As we are both aware,the derogatory comments were "I get the feeling one might be going down soon the way the politics and the personal agendas are going..........its become a bit of a joke there sadly".
But obviously this is only "trying to add value to the club".
The club will continue to grow because of the work put in by the MT,Webteam etc and the financial support of the members.I do find it sad that non members can post,I believe it should be a privilege of membership.

[Lily]

Originally Posted by aka.eric

As we are both aware,the derogatory comments were "I get the feeling one might be going down soon the way the politics and the personal agendas are going..........its become a bit of a joke there sadly".
But obviously this is only "trying to add value to the club".
The club will continue to grow because of the work put in by the MT,Webteam etc and the financial support of the members.I do find it sad that non members can post,I believe it should be a privilege of membership.

So based on a post in this thread, you went hunting onto another forum and then combined two different posts taken out of context due to not posting the contents of the rest of that thread and decided to post it here to prove what point?

I personally do not feel that his comments on the other forum were derogatory and that's my view as a paid up member of the dsc. Taken in the context of the rest of that thread they were a personal view of how he sees things on this forum.

The club continues to grow because 'people' put in effort, irrespective of whether they are MT or webteam.

[JPM]

Eric last year I was indeed a member, and as stated in another thread I was even awarded by the MT at last years dinner dance for the number of posts in one year on this very forum, in excess of 5500 currently and I've been posting here for over 5 years.I have an opinion which you do not clearly agree with which is fair enough, but I'm still here posting even under the current grey clouds.To say you need to pay to access the forum would be commercial suicide for the DSC, would you pay money towards something and not know what you would get for your money?Truth of the matter is I don't have access to DSC Topics (I believe???) which is for paid up members only, so there is an area just for people who have contributed on a financial level. So there is some segregation but not a complete ban as you would like.My comments on UpNorth have been taken out of context by yourself, as has since been highlighted a thread was started by a non-DSC member who was shocked at the threads on this board and the problems and friction amongst it's posters, I made a comment which as I have stated earlier I'm not very PC so forgive me there, it was actually a bit tongue in cheek if you knew me you would understand my humour.All this is doing is adding more fuel to the already burning fire at the moment, something I'm keen to put out and resolve, if all the issues from the last AGM (did you go?) are finally resolved and the MT accept the new constitution that's been put before them, and the running of the club, the funds become more transparent to it's members I'd rejoin in a flash until such time I'll keep my 20 quid or so and put it to good use with riders for health (oh I did that earlier in the year when I lost a bet with TP on the board) or maybe the air ambulance service.Jon

[Lily]

paragraphs wouldn't go amiss

[TP]

Originally Posted by Lily

paragraphs wouldn't go amiss

It's all a blur ... calls himself a nerd too! Sheesh!

I can't even follow this thread anymore, and speaking as the official DSC thread hijacker I've lost count of all the tangents that have been 'explored'!

[keefer]

Originally Posted by JPM

but I'm still here posting even under the current grey clouds

this is what winds me up about all these anti moan threads.
the only people who keep going on about how bad things are, are people who have said they don't want to be apart of the party.
The DD stuff can easily bee ignored now.
which is great
and I don't believe the DOC have gone under as they have member only posting.
Granted I don't think it is a ideal way of going but it would stop the constant non member sniping

[Lily]

Originally Posted by keefer

this is what winds me up about all these anti moan threads.
the only people who keep going on about how bad things are, are people who have said they don't want to be apart of the party.
The DD stuff can easily bee ignored now.
which is great
and I don't believe the DOC have gone under as they have member only posting.
Granted I don't think it is a ideal way of going but it would stop the constant non member sniping

I have to say that I am not convinced the sniping is just coming from non members and tbh I am not always sure it's snipng. Just because someone approaches things differently to try and improve stuff doesn't make it sniping.