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[ratboy]

Got to agree.

But the powers that be seem to reluctant to enforce any real law, regardless of who commits it. It is verbal warning, slap on wrist, minimum sentence - its pathetic. all this from a country who are ready enough to send our troops abroad to dish out justice... send MPs instead. Feckers, all of them...

[Paul James]

Interesting to note amongst all this ethnic discord the number of muslims supposedly in favour of what the muslim bombers did in London recently. We can't or shouldn't decry all muslims for the bombings but I'm not sure that the level of support suggests real harmony with our established society ?

I've read this before posting so no need for anyone to come along and help me to articulate on what I've written.

[loony888]

whilst i was born in the U.K, i have lived most of my life in australia, my parents dreamt of a better life, though i'm not sure that they got it. making the most of wherever you are is obviously the best way to be happy, though that's easy to say here, put bluntly, after a long overseas vacation earlier this year, including england and italy i can say from what i have experienced that australia truly is the best country on earth. there are prettier places, there are more historical places, and there are certainly more exciting places, but for weather, lifestyle, quality of life and friendly faces, oz can't be beat. i don't want to rubbish england but aside from visiting family i have no desire to return, i have never come across as many agro, rude, and wannabe tough guys in my life as i did in my month in the u.k (isle of man excluded!!!) it is worth noting too, that most of us belong to the "silent majority" and apathy fuels inaction and silence so we only have ourselves to blame. we too are in the grip of conservative governmentitis so purile, stupid decisions have to be tolerated here too, it's just that with a population not much more than 20 mill. the saturation of scumbags and negative news stories isn't as large. oh, and there's plenty of room for those who want to move to NZ, most kiwis are moving here......

[TP]

There's some pretty weird responses in here.

My view is that if you're legally allowed to live and work somewhere then there's no reason why you can't. If you don't like it, lobby your MP to have the law's changed. Most people take advantage of laws that suit them and to then sit back and complain that others do (notwithstanding illegals) smacks of hypocrisy.

Being an Aussie living in London I've had to compete with everyone else eligible to work here and my industry also attracts a large number of immigrants. I know for a fact that *some* employers in my industry prefer to hire antipodeans because, and in their words, we have a better work ethic and better attitude towards getting the job done. Two companies that I've worked for that have a high percentage of contractors had a MAJORITY of antipodeans over english. That's something else to think about.

I'll offer one final thing that I hope you all consider. There are people on this board who have partners/loved ones who originate from the countries being stereotyped/denigrated on here. It might pay to show a bit of tact and thoughtfulness.

TP - proud to be Australian.

Thanks for your comments on Aus Loony

[psychlist]

Of course when you come from "down under" (now there's another term ripe for innuendo) us Brits are the Antipodeans

[Ozz]

Bloody Australians get everywhere, taking our jobs....

[Scooter916]

Originally Posted by psychlist

Of course when you come from "down under" (now there's another term ripe for innuendo) us Brits are the Antipodeans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipodeans

Learn somthing new every day. thanks Paul

[Scooter916]

[quote=TP]

Being an Aussie living in London I've had to compete with everyone else eligible to work here and my industry also attracts a large number of immigrants. I know for a fact that *some* employers in my industry prefer to hire antipodeans because, and in their words, we have a better work ethic and better attitude towards getting the job done. Two companies that I've worked for that have a high percentage of contractors had a MAJORITY of antipodeans over english. That's something else to think about.QUOTE]

Thats Cos there arent many English left living in london Tony.
Ask for directions in london and see how many people reply in english....

[Jools]

Originally Posted by TP

There's some pretty weird responses in here.

My view is that if you're legally allowed to live and work somewhere then there's no reason why you can't. If you don't like it, lobby your MP to have the law's changed. Most people take advantage of laws that suit them and to then sit back and complain that others do (notwithstanding illegals) smacks of hypocrisy.

I would agree with that 100%. There are people who have made comments on here indicating that they're so sick of this country that they're leaving it to find greener pastures elsewhere. Fine. So...let me get this straight, you consider that you have the absolute right to go and live and work anywhere you please in the world (as long as yo have the legal right to do so), but people who feel exactly the same way about their country and are looking to come into the UK are somehow in the wrong?

These people also seem to be getting stick for the breakdown of law and order in this country. That's tosh. There is no wholesale breakdown of law and order in this country except in the fevered minds of tabloid editors looking to whip up ill-researched stories to suit their own agenda and sensationalise stuff that will appeal to the moral outrage of their readers. Anyone who doubts this might like to go back to the golden age when crime didn't exist in this country - Perhaps they might have felt safer a decade ago, there was no violent crime then was there? Maybe they would've felt safer in Victorian London (probably one of the most violent cities on earth at that time). Truth is, there was no 'Golden Age'. There have always been scumbags in society, regardless of ethnicity or immigration status.

Of course what we need is no more immigration and Draconian laws to punish all scumbags. That should do it. Doesn't really work though does it. The lower you set the criminalisation bar the more criminals you have - until you end up being sentenced to death for stealing a loaf.

[Scooter916]

Originally Posted by Jools

I would agree with that 100%. There are people who have made comments on here indicating that they're so sick of this country that they're leaving it to find greener pastures elsewhere. Fine. So...let me get this straight, you consider that you have the absolute right to go and live and work anywhere you please in the world (as long as yo have the legal right to do so), but people who feel exactly the same way about their country and are looking to come into the UK are somehow in the wrong?

These people also seem to be getting stick for the breakdown of law and order in this country. That's tosh. There is no wholesale breakdown of law and order in this country except in the fevered minds of tabloid editors looking to whip up ill-researched stories to suit their own agenda and sensationalise stuff that will appeal to the moral outrage of their readers. Anyone who doubts this might like to go back to the golden age when crime didn't exist in this country - Perhaps they might have felt safer a decade ago, there was no violent crime then was there? Maybe they would've felt safer in Victorian London (probably one of the most violent cities on earth at that time). Truth is, there was no 'Golden Age'. There have always been scumbags in society, regardless of ethnicity or immigration status.

Of course what we need is no more immigration and Draconian laws to punish all scumbags. That should do it. Doesn't really work though does it. The lower you set the criminalisation bar the more criminals you have - until you end up being sentenced to death for stealing a loaf.

Jools I have stated that I am leaving this country for pastures greener, But,I am doing so not to find work, Done that for the past 20 years to get me where I am now. I am being welcomed to my choice destination because I am taking somthing there, My Hard earned, cash that will in turn improve their economy, How many illigal imigrants into our shores even pay tax let alone aid our economy, the opposite they drain our resources to the point that people like me who pay a lot of tax are sick to the back teeth of supporting scum and voting with their feet.

Glyn