Ducati Sporting Club UK > Model Specific - Discussion, Technical Problems and Help > 1198 / 1098 / 848 > GSXR K6 vs 1098 Dyno.. Let the games begin!

[dave w]

Originally Posted by khu996

Dave, your Gixxer looks stunning, even amongst all these nice Ducatis!

Lets have some higher resolution pics of it, and tell us whats been done to 'tart' it up!

Where do you want me to start....

PVM mag 20 spoke wheels

PVM 320 narrow band full floating discs

Brembo mono bloc's with Ti pistons

Ohlins fork internals

Yoshi works rearsets

matrix mr4 damper

PC3 with works airbox mod as per BSB

moto GP clip ons

moto GP front mudguard

Yoshi headers

Race-fit 60mm half system

BSB works filler cap

Quick action throttle

Tint screen and headlight cover

carbon rear hugger

Pazzo works levers

£800 of Ti bolts !!!!

brake lines

carbon crankcase protectors

BSB crash protectors

R&G front and rear fork protectors

rear wavey disc

Loads of hours on the dyno !!!

[Simon Reed]

whats it kickin out dave,early 160's ?,i've heard vaious reports about the racefit !,look,and sound good,but don't perform,as the fuelings all over the place !!

[dave w]

Originally Posted by Simon Reed

whats it kickin out dave,early 160's ?,i've heard vaious reports about the racefit !,look,and sound good,but don't perform,as the fuelings all over the place !!

She was kicking out 164.2 with a Yoshi can at only 4 weeks old... year and a bit old now with lots more mods and dyno time she's producing 174.11 BHP with no flat spots.. just power all the way up to 13500 rpm... rear tyres don't last to long !! But the most amazing change were the brakes.. Still cant believe just how good they are compared to OE stuff !!!

[Mad Dog Bianchi]

so you have to park this in the bedroom with guard dogs and laser cannon? how do you deal with it on the street? Take the engine with you into the local pub? LOL
Beautiful machine there mate...

[Simon Reed]

Originally Posted by dave w

She was kicking out 164.2 with a Yoshi can at only 4 weeks old... year and a bit old now with lots more mods and dyno time she's producing 174.11 BHP with no flat spots.. just power all the way up to 13500 rpm... rear tyres don't last to long !! But the most amazing change were the brakes.. Still cant believe just how good they are compared to OE stuff !!!

i take it thats on Crescents dyno then?,bearing in mind you're in poole !,nuff said !

[Simon Reed]

Originally Posted by dave w

She was kicking out 164.2 with a Yoshi can at only 4 weeks old... year and a bit old now with lots more mods and dyno time she's producing 174.11 BHP with no flat spots.. just power all the way up to 13500 rpm... rear tyres don't last to long !! But the most amazing change were the brakes.. Still cant believe just how good they are compared to OE stuff !!!

i take it thats on Crescents dyno then?,bearing in mind you're in poole !,nuff said !

looks well though,you had any cush drive problems with them pvm's ?,i've had 4 sets in mine on the R1 !,in 18 mth!

[Stu748R]

I wonder how much power and torque a 1098cc GSXR would produce?

[Simon Reed]

loads stu !!,thats the trouble,why hasn't the cc limit been raised for all the manufacturers eh ???,as we have said before,Ducati don't need to increase the capacity in order to gain results,as its winning around the world,its supposed to be a level playing field,ain't it!

I've read somewhere ,that jhp,has got a £175k budget,for superstock,for next year,why is that?,i thought the bigger capacity was to reduce engine rebuilds/costs,surely,or,is it going to be that illegal,it needs the re-builds !!!

Ah well,it'll soon be april !

[twpd]

Originally Posted by Simon Reed

loads stu !!,thats the trouble,why hasn't the cc limit been raised for all the manufacturers eh ???,as we have said before,Ducati don't need to increase the capacity in order to gain results,as its winning around the world,its supposed to be a level playing field,ain't it!

I've read somewhere ,that jhp,has got a £175k budget,for superstock,for next year,why is that?,i thought the bigger capacity was to reduce engine rebuilds/costs,surely,or,is it going to be that illegal,it needs the re-builds !!!

Ah well,it'll soon be april !

Because it's not a level playing field for a twin. I don't see how this is so hard for people to understand. cc for cc a twin cannot compete with a 4 and the reason for this is that the 4 has more valve area - it is valve area that largely dictates how much power is produced. 4 small high-revving pots will give more power than two large lower-revving pots.

The easiest way to get more power out of a 4-stroke is to increase the valve area i.e the bore and the size of the valves, and shorten the stroke to allow it to rev harder. This is why 4 cylinder bikes make more power per litre than twins.

It's quite amazing that Ducati can compete as they do with the 999 but it costs them a fortune in engines because they don't last long. They want to go to the bigger motor to save money and have restrictions placed upon them re. the amount of tuning they are allowed to do. I get tired of people saying Ducati cheat - they don't. They work within the rules which, have been agreed by all the factories including the Japanese factories. A well-known Yamaha race engineer once said that if the rules were properly applied then the 4's would be restricted to 738cc whilst the twins were at 1000. I will try to find the reference.

[dave w]

Originally Posted by Simon Reed

i take it thats on Crescents dyno then?,bearing in mind you're in poole !,nuff said !

looks well though,you had any cush drive problems with them pvm's ?,i've had 4 sets in mine on the R1 !,in 18 mth!

Spot on with the dyno work !! as for the PVM's no prob's so far.. i am running the race cush drive unit and not the road version..