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[twpd]

Trouble is no-one buys air-cooled Ducatis cos they don't make enough power Well for me they do but that's another story

2 cylinders are all you need but 3 is an excellent compromise
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[749er]

Originally Posted by twpd

Trouble is no-one buys air-cooled Ducatis cos they don't make enough power Well for me they do but that's another story

2 cylinders are all you need but 3 is an excellent compromise
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eh?

[twpd]

Originally Posted by 749er

eh?

I was replying to Couch. What's not clear about that? Many many people think that 80bhp is weedy and they need more. I happen to find that it's a nice amount of power and enough for me.

[Monty]

Agree with you Nigel, depends very much on what roads you ride. I remember reading an article by a guy who was a Nurburgring instructor, he reckoned that for about 80% of the 'Ring 40bhp was all you could actually use. He used a Gilera Saturno to instruct which is a 45(claimed)bhp 500cc single with probably 35/6 rear wheel horsepower. I have one and love it down the lanes-there isn't much that will go past me because I can use ALL of the power I have all of the time-sounds a bit like your Hartside road Nigel.

John

[749er]

Originally Posted by twpd

I was replying to Couch. What's not clear about that? Many many people think that 80bhp is weedy and they need more. I happen to find that it's a nice amount of power and enough for me.

it was the bit about "no one buys air cooled Ducatis" that foxed me.

Was under the impression that about 50% of Ducati sales were Monsters, most of which will be air cooled. Throw in the MTS and a few Sport Classics and it seems to me a lot of people buy air cooled, if not most.

Take your point on power. I love my S2R, its great, always leaves me with a big smile on my face. There is also a young lady here who rides a 620 Monster and i have seen her easily embarress a guy on a 999, and another on a ZX6r on a twisty A road

[twpd]

I virtually never seen a fuel-injected SS on the road. I've never seen a 1000ss or 800ss in the north where I live.
I hardly ever see a Monster on the road and the ones I do see are almost always water-cooled 4 valvers.
I've only seen a couple of Multis and these were the thou.
How many Sport Classics do you see? Not many again I bet.

The SSie range has been dropped because it doesn't sell. Air-cooled Monsters will go the same way imo. And almost everyone I know turns their nose up when you mention the power output. Sadly. These days it seems 100bhp is the starting point - this rules out every air-cooled motor.

IMO you have a much better chance of seeing a 916/748 derived bike than any of the air-cooled bikes.

[749er]

Originally Posted by twpd

I virtually never seen a fuel-injected SS on the road. I've never seen a 1000ss or 800ss in the north where I live.
I hardly ever see a Monster on the road and the ones I do see are almost always water-cooled 4 valvers.
I've only seen a couple of Multis and these were the thou.
How many Sport Classics do you see? Not many again I bet.

The SSie range has been dropped because it doesn't sell. Air-cooled Monsters will go the same way imo. And almost everyone I know turns their nose up when you mention the power output. Sadly. These days it seems 100bhp is the starting point - this rules out every air-cooled motor.

IMO you have a much better chance of seeing a 916/748 derived bike than any of the air-cooled bikes.

never seen a sport classic on the raod but they outsold the mts last year.

Ducati sold 18000 or so units in the first half of last year

3800 were air cooled, over 10000 were monsters. 60% of the Monster range is aircooled, even if they only sold about 20% as air cooled thats still 1/3 of the units they sold being air cooled. A long way from nobody. The air cooled bikes are great bikes.

Cant explain what you see or dont see, dont know where you live or how often you go out?

[moto748]

Eh?

Sorry, your figures aren't very clear. If Ducati sales are 18000, and 3800 are air-cooled, that's hardly a third, is it?