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Global warming became much more apparent to me when I first noticed that Foxes Glacier Mints were getting smaller

[Tonio600]

Global warming is only good for you if you don't have children, grand-children and generally don't care about things which don't affect yourself right now.

For people who haven't seen Gore's documentary, I strongly recommend them to watch it (An Inconvenient Truth).

[888heaven]

On the news last night 2006 was the hottest year since records began about two hundred years ago thats hardly headline news thousands of years ago we were under 20 odd foot of ice did neanderthal man go into guilt mode and stop building fires.
200 years of records is not very representetive of the millions of years of animals producing methane and CO2,if you want accelerated climate change look at the asteriod that struck the Mexico basin which wiped out the Dinosaurs but the planet survived and remained in o2/co2 balance other wise all life would have been extigiushed.
If CO2 was being produced quicker than plants could synthesize O2 everything would be dead.
No one can really say with 100% accuracy whether this is a natural planetry change or real climate change due to man.
whether or not it is this and every other government will use it as a way to dump even more tax on you.
Theres money to be made in global warming and windfarm companys are the first to cash in on grants to blight the sky line.
They produce very little power compared to the cost of manufacture and work effeciently on very few days with most of them are turned off due to grid capacity.
there an absolute scar on the skylines of cornwall and will destroy the veiws on the Scottish isles whose people do not want them.

[749er]

Originally Posted by 888heaven

On the news last night 2006 was the hottest year since records began about two hundred years ago thats hardly headline news thousands of years ago we were under 20 odd foot of ice did neanderthal man go into guilt mode and stop building fires.
200 years of records is not very representetive of the millions of years of animals producing methane and CO2,if you want accelerated climate change look at the asteriod that struck the Mexico basin which wiped out the Dinosaurs but the planet survived and remained in o2/co2 balance other wise all life would have been extigiushed.
If CO2 was being produced quicker than plants could synthesize O2 everything would be dead.
No one can really say with 100% accuracy whether this is a natural planetry change or real climate change due to man.
whether or not it is this and every other government will use it as a way to dump even more tax on you.
Theres money to be made in global warming and windfarm companys are the first to cash in on grants to blight the sky line.
They produce very little power compared to the cost of manufacture and work effeciently on very few days with most of them are turned off due to grid capacity.
there an absolute scar on the skylines of cornwall and will destroy the veiws on the Scottish isles whose people do not want them.

Are you nuts or what?

its not just CO2 production, it is also the unprecedented deforrestation of the planet which is a significant factor

Tell me exactly what is pretty about pylons stretching out across the landscape, acid rain or leukemia clusters?

Speaking as a Scot tell me what will be left of the Scottish islands when the sea level rises 9m as predicted by some models?

Millions of years ago, there were far fewer people and cows etc were not farmed then as they are now. There is no comparison to be made with planet we have today.

THERE IS NO DOUBT GLOBAL WARMING IS CAUSED BY MAN UNLESS YOUR NAME IS GEORGE W BUSH! ASK ANY SCIENTIST!

There is as much energy used in the production of a car as it uses in its lifetime, so by that metric wind farms are spectacularly successful. Do you have any idea how much more CO2 is produced in the building of a nuclear power station? Until nuclear fusion comes along wind and wave are the best we have. Incidentally, when the UK government did a study in the early 80s or so as to what was the cheapest/most environemtally friendly way of producing energy, nuclear came out on top. Then once the go ahead for Sizewell B, THORP (Thermal Oxide Reprocessing Plant) etc had all gone through someone noticed wave power was the best way forward and there was an error in the calcs. The cynics among us might suggest that you cant build nuclear weapons with wave power but you can with nuclear power stations and the lunacy of THORP.

As for taxation,if you pollute you should pay to clean it up. Its not my world or yours. Its everyones, and those who follow us should find it in a decent condition.

Sorry, rant over, but really, the world needs to wake up to how close to disaster it is. As mentioned above, the UKs climate as it is just now is not assured of remaining as it is and is entirely dependant upon the salinity of the Atlantic seawater. Melting ice means no conveyor for the warm air of the tropics which means Moscow comes to London for Winter.

[888heaven]

[As for taxation,if you pollute you should pay to clean it up]
just like I pay road tax and its all used on the roads get real.

[749er]

Originally Posted by 888heaven

[As for taxation,if you pollute you should pay to clean it up]
just like I pay road tax and its all used on the roads get real.

Your road tax pays for the UKs road building program and more. But it does not cover the cost of repairing the damage done to the environment through global warming whether that be preventative measures or remedial.

eg the cost of building the Thames barrier in todays money £1.4billion

many scientists believe planting trees will not work effectively in refixing carbon, so other methods are being considered, eg storing it in disused oil reservoirs in the North Sea etc

Or to look at another way. The human cost? 300 people died in flooding in Canvey Island in 1953

As Psychlist says, melting ice caps = a greater surface area of water. Add increased ambient temperatures and effectively youhave more water in the atmosphere . effectively a speeding up of the water cycle and more rain through global warming.

Then we have all the damage done by the other pollutants in fuel. Historically, lead, sulphur etc Someone has to pay for it....

[Martini]

I seem to be one few people that actually LIKE the look of wind farms. I work near the Mohne valley (where the Dambusters did their thing) and the hills are covered in wind turbines. They don't detract from the beauty of the valley anymore than the houses and hotels do. IMHO.

[psychlist]

Originally Posted by Martini

I seem to be one few people that actually LIKE the look of wind farms. I work near the Mohne valley (where the Dambusters did their thing) and the hills are covered in wind turbines. They don't detract from the beauty of the valley anymore than the houses and hotels do. IMHO.

They'd be very good at adding character to the Crouch and Blackwater valleys

[psychlist]

Originally Posted by 749er

...which means Moscow comes to London for Winter.

Ooh! Will they bring some pretty young Russian Au Pairs

[749er]

Originally Posted by psychlist

Ooh! Will they bring some pretty young Russian Au Pairs

you needing warmed up Paulo?