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[psychlist]

Originally Posted by 749er

Think you may have a point on it being to late though, especialy if China, and the USA dont change

I blame the Australians myself, coming over here and drinking all our lager then pi55ing on our grass! No wonder there's not enough greenery to get rid of the CO2

[TP]

Originally Posted by psychlist

I blame the Australians myself, coming over here and drinking all our lager then pi55ing on our grass! No wonder there's not enough greenery to get rid of the CO2

What grass?

[749er]

Originally Posted by TP

What grass?

the grass they dont play cricket on

[TP]

Originally Posted by 749er

the grass they dont play cricket on

I loves cricket me

[Gilps]

Jools, I agree with everything that you say. India and China are trying hard to play catch-up and no amount of political pressure is going to stop them. It needs the rest of the world to help them, econimocally and financially. And that is why I am convinced that we will not manage to turn this around. This planet has not been destroyed by mankinds greed, but by human nature. It will take more than a few well-intentioned individuals to make an effort. It needs the entire planet to adhere to a cohesive policy. If just a couple of countries refuse to cooperate, then human nature will kick in. "If they aren't going to play by the rules then why should we?". Individuals will not do what is needed. Governments need to legislate to force citizens to comply. Who is going to vote for a government that is going to lower their standard of living and give help to another country?
I think that we will all figure out what really needs to be done and be prepared to take the consequences when we really have no other choice, but I really do believe that by then it will be too late.
I think that wars are going to be fought over global warming. Coutnries will do what they have to to survive. Resources will run low and countries will take what they can from other countries, all in the name of survival.
You don't see any other animal on this planet thinking about it's species long-term future. They sleep, eat, reproduce and live and die. Did the last dodo think "damn, I'm the last one". I think our time is coming to an end, and it doesn't really matter whether it be by our own hand, or a giant meteorite hitting earth. The outcome will be the same.
Still, I don't let it get me down.

[Tonio600]

Originally Posted by Gilps

You don't see any other animal on this planet thinking about it's species long-term future. They sleep, eat, reproduce and live and die. Did the last dodo think "damn, I'm the last one".

"reproduce" comes with "making sure my children can lead a safe life" doesn't it?

I don't have any children yet, but I'm 100% sure that if one day the girl I love gives me a son or a daughter, I'll spend my life making sure they can be at least as happy on Earth as I've been. Anyway that's how my parents grew me.

I totally disagree with your views Gilps. Have you watched "An Inconvenient Truth"? If not I'd be more than happy to lend it to you if you'd accept to give it a watch (as to anybody who hasn't seen it).

Commuting by train cost me £90 a month. The trains are always late and they stink. But at least I keep my car off the roads. And if in 10 years I feel it's time to give up biking because the situation is getting worse and worse, then I'll do it.

It's not too late.
It's not a fatality.

[Gilps]

Originally Posted by Tonio600

"reproduce" comes with "making sure my children can lead a safe life" doesn't it?

I don't have any children yet, but I'm 100% sure that if one day the girl I love gives me a son or a daughter, I'll spend my life making sure they can be at least as happy on Earth as I've been. Anyway that's how my parents grew me.

I totally disagree with your views Gilps. Have you watched "An Inconvenient Truth"? If not I'd be more than happy to lend it to you if you'd accept to give it a watch (as to anybody who hasn't seen it).

Commuting by train cost me £90 a month. The trains are always late and they stink. But at least I keep my car off the roads. And if in 10 years I feel it's time to give up biking because the situation is getting worse and worse, then I'll do it.

It's not too late.
It's not a fatality.

Tonio, I admire your sentiments. I chose not to have children but if I had I would have, like you, tried to do my very best for them. I do have step-children but they live with my estranged wife.
I haven't seen that particular film although I have seen several other programs on the subject, some claiming it's all exagerated, and others claiming doom and gloom.
I realise that you are one the many trying to do their bit to help, but I just don't feel that it's enough. There will always be some who are not prepared to make sacrifices. That's my point. I believe that it is human nature and will not change, at least not until it's too late anyway.
I just have a different point of view to you. I believe it is too late to turn it around. I think we are very close to the point of no return and only really drastic action will avert us passing it, and that action isn't being taken. And I'm not talking about taking the train instead of the car. This is far far bigger than that, and the small gestures that we may make on a daily basis are not enough to avert disaster.
I hope that I'm proved wrong, but I firmly believe that this whole planets going to be a very unpleasant place to live in 50 years.