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Old 13-Nov-2007, 13:08
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Whoa hey there, just a minute!

The somewhat hand-wringing, more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger phaseology used by CB there seems to me a little at odds with the real world.

"The opportunity to make unsubstantiated serious comments/allegations against people or organisations is no longer available to us.

It is sad that society is coming to this, but this is the environment in which we all have to exist and we all need to abide by the rules that society imposes."


I cordially invite posters to consider Visordown, which many here post on. Not I'm not saying this forum ought to be like VD (before you all start wrinkling your noses ), but the fact is that freedom of expression, and, indeed, the freedom to give someone a good s l a g ging off, seems hardly to have diminished recently.

Ah, you may say, but VD's owners (now a bike mag, more or less) *could*, in theory find themselves liable in court. Well, maybe. But it's a big maybe.

For an even better example: who would be most aware of the law in this area than the talkboards of a national broadsheet newspaper? I invite posters to consider the International section of the Guardian talkboards. I can't access them at work, but I believe the link is

http://www.guardian.co.uk/talk/0,,546387,00.html

A bigger collection of free-range loonies and psychos you couldn't wish to meet! I know of their rep cos I post on their film and TV board, which fortunately is quite different. But the point remains that if the Guardian can preside quite happily over that farrago, we may be worrying just a teensy-bit too much.

I concur with the poster upthread who said that we should conduct ourselves without personal abuse etc.

Hoever, I also think that occasions some posters should follow couchie's good example, and grow a rather thicker skin!

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Old 13-Nov-2007, 13:39
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I think there's been a bit too much navel-gazing going on. I am not aware of the finer points of law wrt libel etc but it seems to me that the WT/MT are worrying far too much about something that might never happen. As has been pointed out, there are many more far more "liberal" boards that are never troubled by this subject.

I fear that this kind of censorship will lead to a sterilised board where no-one dares say anything remotely contentious for fear of being "charged", "prosecuted" and found "guilty" in secret by the WT/MT without so much as an opportunity to defend themselves or answer the charges.
Such a policy as laid down in the seed post of this thread goes contrary to all of the principles of a fair and democatic society and, is symptomatic of a wider malaise where we see individual freedoms continually eroded.

Some people need to grow thicker skins.

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Old 13-Nov-2007, 13:43
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I think there's been a bit too much navel-gazing going on. I am not aware of the finer points of law wrt libel etc but it seems to me that the WT/MT are worrying far too much about something that might never happen. As has been pointed out, there are many more far more "liberal" boards that are never troubled by this subject.

I fear that this kind of censorship will lead to a sterilised board where no-one dares say anything remotely contentious for fear of being "charged", "prosecuted" and found "guilty" in secret by the WT/MT without so much as an opportunity to defend themselves or answer the charges.
Such a policy as laid down in the seed post of this thread goes contrary to all of the principles of a fair and democatic society and, is symptomatic of a wider malaise where we see individual freedoms continually eroded.

Some people need to grow thicker skins.

eloquently put Mr Twpd
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Old 13-Nov-2007, 13:47
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Some people need to grow thicker skins.


Or try posting on visordown where they don't give a stuff.

If you don't want to accept this, take a look at what's happened to some posters on Sheffield FC forum. This is real, it's fact and it's NOT going to go away. Sad perhaps, but true.

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Old 13-Nov-2007, 13:50
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TWPD sounds all gay to me
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Old 13-Nov-2007, 13:52
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TWPD sounds all gay to me

ironically enough that kind of post is no longer tolerated

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Old 13-Nov-2007, 14:00
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TWPD sounds all gay to me

Indeed. I'd invite you to say that to my face, but we all know you southern shandy drinkers are too soft to come up here to the far north and we'd get lost somewhere south of Leeds.
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Old 13-Nov-2007, 14:07
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Indeed. I'd invite you to say that to my face, but we all know you southern shandy drinkers are too soft to come up here to the far north and we'd get lost somewhere south of Leeds.

Not true, i had a lovely evening in Mirfield recently, only the abundance of people speaking funny ruined it.
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Indeed. I'd invite you to say that to my face, but we all know you southern shandy drinkers are too soft to come up here to the far north and we'd get lost somewhere south of Leeds.

Pah I'm not travelling to a 3rd world part of the country, I don't have a 4x4 and I like the convenience of electricity
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Old 13-Nov-2007, 15:40
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Sadly there has to be censorship of some kind these days sometimes....

The law seems to hold the forum operators responsible where libelous stuff is not dealt with, ie where someone posts a libelous post on the site and it is just left there and not dealt with. I think readin between the lines as long as the MT/WT/Club are seen to delete said posts then they have upheld their responsibility......
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