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[paynep]

Hey, there's a thought - maybe if we were to just have the one class and let other bikes in we'd solve all our grid problems too?

I'll get me coat.........

[trouty]

Originally Posted by paynep

Hey, there's a thought - maybe if we were to just have the one class and let other bikes in we'd solve all our grid problems too?

I'll get me coat.........

i like it! how about, all v twins under 650cc? what could we call it?

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by trouty

Cadwell sunday

mixed grids
all comers 500 had 11 on the grid. 4 of which were dd'ers
all comers open and dave holland trophy had 17 (bear in mind it was billed as the Dave Holland Festival)
supermoto/SoT/Supermono - 21
probike open + f600 - 21
125/250/f400/cb500/sv (5 classes sharing a grid) 18... 5 were dd'ers

single grids
Desmo B - 17
Desmo A - 17 (2 class B)
supermono 18
lansdowne classics had 23

so of the 4 classes that had single grids, each of our class had practically as many, and almost as many if not more than, the mixed grids.

Yes, im sure NE may have lost some money here, but that CANNOT be attributed to the DD classes!

Lets Just take Sunday, they could have put us all on a mixed grid so in place of 4 races on the entry they could have just put two, yes we would almost have filled it and there income would have been the same, they then could have offered the other two race grids to another guest class someone like the carts and earnt another £2k to £3k, They could also have done that Saturday.
But New Era gave us seperate grids on both days and really it should have earnt them more money, why bother having guest classes if they don't generate the level of income they expect

As for CB500s. I and many NE members think it was daft having a club and superclub championship for them, splitting the 25 to 30 riders in to two groups, one single CB500 championship would have been far better replacing two grids of a bout 15 each with one grid of 25 to 30, no doubt thats what Thunderbsport have done
They have learnt there lesson there and have cut down on the amount of championships and the amount of meetings they run. I wonder what they are learning about guest classes.

[steve41]

Not looked at Forum for a few weeks, just sent entry form for Donnington after email from Dom.

I do hope they let me know if I am racing or reserve before I travel down from sunny Scotland!!!!!

What is the normal process as it is my first year with DD, do New Era hold entry as a deposit for next round, or return if you don't get an entry?

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by steve41

Not looked at Forum for a few weeks, just sent entry form for Donnington after email from Dom.

I do hope they let me know if I am racing or reserve before I travel down from sunny Scotland!!!!!

What is the normal process as it is my first year with DD, do New Era hold entry as a deposit for next round, or return if you don't get an entry?

Hi Steve
I have found myself as a reserve before in years gone past.
First time I turned up at the meeting (Donington) with my CBR600 hoping to get on to the F600 grid and never got out. I was issued with a credit note.
Next time I got an entry through marked reserve I sent it along with all tickets back and asked for a credit note, at least this time I didn't spent time and money going, instead I did a NGRRC meeting the same weekend although it cost me a late entry fee

[skidlids]

Costs

Cadwell circuit hire lets say £16000 per day (a fraction of Doningtons & Brands hire costs and probably on the conservative side)

Classes racing = 9 last time we were there
Cost of entry £115, of which some goes to paying for the medical cover, some towards the ACU Licence so lets say £85 is left to go to Circuit hireThe circuit hire spread across 9 classes/grids comes to £1778 per class/grid, this would require 21 entrants on each grid to cover the costs, providing they are not paying just the £25 for an extra race.

New Era as the organising club that has to pay for the circuit hire well in advance would be wise to work along the lines of a minimum 25 entries per class/grid to cover their costs. So when looking at Guest classes they would be looking for the ones that can put around 25 riders on each grid. DD says they can do that and they often do, but sometimes they don't.

Brands and Donny cost a lot more so they probably need in excess of 30 on each grid with slightly hire entry fees, something DD might manage but no guarntees so at these venues its in their interests to offer just one grid (just like the Dutch club did at Assen) and know you will get the required number. Now if they had offered us two seperate grids and by the closing date only had 45 entries and with programmes etc needing to be at the printers within 8 days from the closing date it would leave them very little time (1 week) to change things, so that DD only had one mixed grid and then sell the other grid to someone else, it just wouldn't be possible in that time frame

Assen is a good example, last year we didn't get enough bikes out there and could not guarantee them we would this year so they have gone with another guest class.

[Scooter916]

An update from Jean at new Era regarding the schedule
They do not Know what is happening at the moment, They will Hopefully have more information by Monday

[Ray]

Originally Posted by couchcommando

Everyone knows top of the pre-season training list for DD is whinging, to miss out wets and warmers from the pre-season whinging schedule is short changing the newcomers, they can damn well take in the whole DD experience as we have all done for the last few years

Time to re ignite the debate about class C for 748s then?


Ray.

[Imola Duke]

Can the RC let us know many riders have registered for class A and B ?


Just interested in the possible grid size's

[Imola Duke]

Originally Posted by skidlids

Yet the smallest Class Grid at Mallory in 2008 for the first round was DD Class B followed by Class A, with the SoT grid being 32 strong, take out the 5 DD bikes and it still had 27 entrants compared to Class Bs 19 plus a guest rider for PB mag

Did a TD yesterday at mallory and gerrards has a few new bumps

Another new rider in class B came along and did very well for his first time out