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Old 10-Mar-2009, 08:29   #1
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We have been already talking to Pirelli this week re availability and should have the matter clarified in the next few days.

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make that more than a few days, very optamistic of me, but it is in hand and will resolved ASAP and an update issued.

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Old 10-Mar-2009, 08:33   #2
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Well we dont have long before the first round Gordon...thats what tends to get to us all.....the fact that this is all so late in the day...again.
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Old 10-Mar-2009, 08:46   #3
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If Holbeach can supply H rated Diablo Rossos I can't see as there is a problem,

failing that FWR have rears advetised
http://www.fwr.co.uk

and fronts and rears are here
http://www.tyresite.com/product.asp?P_ID=755


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Old 10-Mar-2009, 09:01   #4
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Well we dont have long before the first round Gordon...thats what tends to get to us all.....the fact that this is all so late in the day...again.

The current rules are in place and cover the situation at the moment , any amendment will be for the future, as with many things in life we can only go with information recived at the time.

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Old 10-Mar-2009, 20:07   #5
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Doesn't this whole debate highlight the futility of this season's two tyre rule anyway.

Until now Diablo's have been used successfully as a single (control) tyre to keep costs down....then this season Rosso's allowed as well (if they ever make any ).

I presume that many riders have now got spare wheels so they have the option of wet (Diablo) or dry (Rosso) choices, so how does this keep costs down when compared to the more logical, "allowed to use wets"



Senna'....I wasn't having a dig at you mate....just explaining my position as a "newbie" to 'DD'. I have raced before on treaded rubber, Avon's AM23/24 and they were pretty good 'of their time'.
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Old 10-Mar-2009, 20:15   #6
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Doesn't this whole debate highlight the futility of this season's two tyre rule anyway.

Until now Diablo's have been used successfully as a single (control) tyre to keep costs down....then this season Rosso's allowed as well (if they ever make any ).

I presume that many riders have now got spare wheels so they have the option of wet (Diablo) or dry (Rosso) choices, so how does this keep costs down when compared to the more logical, "allowed to use wets"



Senna'....I wasn't having a dig at you mate....just explaining my position as a "newbie" to 'DD'. I have raced before on treaded rubber, Avon's AM23/24 and they were pretty good 'of their time'.

no afence taken mate looking foward to meeting you and the rest of the newbies good to see fresh blood in the series
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Old 10-Mar-2009, 20:22   #7
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I presume that many riders have now got spare wheels so they have the option of wet (Diablo) or dry (Rosso) choices, so how does this keep costs down when compared to the more logical, "allowed to use wets"


Why would a standard Diablo be classed as a wet tyre & a rosso as a Dry tyre???

Yes, the Rosso has a small amount of untreaded edge to the rear tyre, but you must be a riding god if you think you will be able to lean the bike that far over in the wet on a standard diablo.

Wet behavior: find always your emotion
In the development of Diablo Rosso strong attention has been payed to the behaviour on wet road surface, always more important because of the increased performance of latest generation of machinery and of the growing performance of riders. The Front tread is designed to open the water layer; the calibrated grooves between rear crown and the edges disperse effectively the residual water, while the structure (based on Pirelli patented zero degree steel belt both on front and rear) maintains open the grooves even in extreme conditions.
With the support of the innovative compounds with balanced silica content, Diablo Rosso assures performance that satisfy the expectation of the most demanding riders.



Guess that say's it all really.


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Old 10-Mar-2009, 20:51   #8
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Except the last line Chris.....'Oh yes, and you cant use them on a 600 cos we wont be making them in the correct size'........Lol....
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Except the last line Chris.....'Oh yes, and you cant use them on a 600 cos we wont be making them in the correct size'........Lol....

Oh they do make them in a 160/60/17 which is the correct size for a 600
just not in H rated at present, maybe an effect of the world wide economic recession.

They also make a H rated Diablo in both 120/70/17 and 160/60/17 which not only fit a 600 but are also allowed in Desmo Due, whats more they're also available from dealers


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Old 10-Mar-2009, 21:08   #10
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Maybe I over simplified it a bit Chris' and you were reading some thing that wasn't actually there....

Because Diablo's are "very good in the wet" and Rosso's, though far stickier than Diablo's for dry racing, are not reputed to be as good as Diablo's in the wet, my wet/dry senario would seem to be logical.

But there again a meaningless quote from an advertising 'blurb' is always better than answering the question posed.
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