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 10-Mar-2009, 20:07 | #1 |
| Registered Forum User Mille Posts: 112 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Warrington Cheshire Doesn't this whole debate highlight the futility of this season's two tyre rule anyway. Until now Diablo's have been used successfully as a single (control) tyre to keep costs down....then this season Rosso's allowed as well (if they ever make any  ). I presume that many riders have now got spare wheels so they have the option of wet (Diablo) or dry (Rosso) choices, so how does this keep costs down when compared to the more logical, "allowed to use wets" Senna'....I wasn't having a dig at you mate....just explaining my position as a "newbie" to 'DD'. I have raced before on treaded rubber, Avon's AM23/24 and they were pretty good 'of their time'. | |
| 10-Mar-2009, 20:15 | #2 | |
| Registered Forum User 500SD  Posts: 850 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford Mood: ready to race Quote:
no afence taken mate looking foward to meeting you and the rest of the newbies good to see fresh blood in the series | ||
| 10-Mar-2009, 20:22 | #3 | |
| Registered Forum User Ducati Corse Bikes: Monster 1100 EVO  Posts: 3,969 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: lincoln Mood: I'm A Grandad again :-) Quote:
Why would a standard Diablo be classed as a wet tyre & a rosso as a Dry tyre???  Yes, the Rosso has a small amount of untreaded edge to the rear tyre, but you must be a riding god if you think you will be able to lean the bike that far over in the wet on a standard diablo. Wet behavior: find always your emotion In the development of Diablo Rosso strong attention has been payed to the behaviour on wet road surface, always more important because of the increased performance of latest generation of machinery and of the growing performance of riders. The Front tread is designed to open the water layer; the calibrated grooves between rear crown and the edges disperse effectively the residual water, while the structure (based on Pirelli patented zero degree steel belt both on front and rear) maintains open the grooves even in extreme conditions. With the support of the innovative compounds with balanced silica content, Diablo Rosso assures performance that satisfy the expectation of the most demanding riders. Guess that say's it all really. Chris  | ||
| 10-Mar-2009, 20:51 | #4 |
| Registered Forum User Mille  Posts: 360 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pakenham, Suffolk | |
| 10-Mar-2009, 21:08 | #6 |
| Registered Forum User Mille Posts: 112 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Warrington Cheshire | |
| 10-Mar-2009, 21:58 | #7 |
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| 10-Mar-2009, 22:09 | #8 | |
| Registered Forum User Ducati Corse Bikes: Monster 1100 EVO Posts: 3,969 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: lincoln Mood: I'm A Grandad again :-) Quote:
As far as I see it, the Diablo Rosso is the new Diablo, ie it's replacement. The standard Diablo was and still is a good tyre,( I use it on the road) the Rosso as it's replacement is more technoloicaly adavanced, offering better grip at higher lean angles in the dry, better wet weather capabilities in removing water from between the road and the surface of the tyre, better silica content etc(this is the one that makes it grip better in the wet) How do you substantiate that the Rosso is not good in the wet??? " a meaningless quote from an advertising 'blurb " If as you say the advertising was meaningless, then surley you should complain to the advertising standards agency, as all advertisers have to meet a strict code regarding what they say there product can and can not do, litigation is the modern way of sorting things out. Before you can quantify that the standard Diablo is better than the Rosso, you need to have ridden/raced them first. Chris | ||
| 10-Mar-2009, 22:44 | #9 |
| Registered Forum User 500SD Posts: 850 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford Mood: ready to race Just A Thought Dosent the gruves on the tyre ie tread just move the water about it dont actully do the griping bit its the heat in the tyre that duz that and if its wet you dont lean the bike over as much so sureley then there is no difference in the two tyres in wet conditions but better grip in the dry not that ive any problems either way JUST A THOUGHT DONT SHOOT ME LOL  | |
| 10-Mar-2009, 22:57 | #10 |
| I have never ridden on wets.......... I noticed in the paddock the amount of grooves/tread pattern on them i guess the blocks/tread move around more and generate heat and remove standing water ? I followed a race bike in the wet at a TD and it looked like he was leaving a dry line  Just to add to this tyre thread I'm hoping to buy a set of NEW tyres for this year..lol I used Lily and Freaks part worns in 08  Last edited by Imola Duke : 10-Mar-2009 at 23:02. | |
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