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[nogaromill998]

That was a good deal Glyn......why cant they sell them direct to ALL DD riders? After all, Chris has said he is in discussions with Pirelli direct and NOT a dealer...so of course, THAT must be what he is negotiating on our behalf ! Silly me !

[Scooter916]

I was a bit Piddled with Pirelli when I called to order some diablo`s a few years ago as Holbeach were doing them the same price as i got them trade, So when I put in an order for some scooter tyres last week I questioned as to why this was, Apparently I dont get the same discount on Big bike tyres as other dealers, But Bigger dealers dont get the same discount on scooter tyres than I do, fairy muff. I Explained that the tyres were for me and they gave me a better Price.
Apparently they are even cheaper on the continent.
Glyn

[bradders]

why should we get a better deal than any other racer from Pirelli? not like we are promoting their tyres or creating advertising space on a national or international stage

and you must go thru 3 sets a round eh Glyn

[gordonparker]

Originally Posted by nogaromill998

Chris has said he is in discussions with Pirelli direct and NOT a dealer...so of course, THAT must be what he is negotiating on our behalf ! Silly me !

Chris actually said the CLUB was talking to Pirelli and I have been doing this on behalf of the club as a member of the RC.

As Glyn is a dealer of course he will recive a trade discount which is normal practise in the industry.

In superstock we have to buy our tyres from Eddie Roberts/Pirelli and they cost us £300 a pair which can equate to £1000 per weekend depending on the weather.

[nogaromill998]

Maybe so Gordon, but you know as well as I do, through our discussions last year, that there is a tyre manufacturer ready to supply the required letters of suitability, the required tyres which are currently undergoing testing on Class A and B bikes, a VERY decent price, trophies and prizes, and yet the MT made a decision to not even bother to talk to them last year, and I dont even understand that....its for the good of the series, they are a company that already sponsors the British MX Championships, already sponsors a BSB team, and WANTS to help DD, and yet such a decision was taken. beggars belief in my humble opinion.

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by nogaromill998

already sponsors a BSB team, .

But surely the BSB team run Pirellis

I may be wrong but it does sound to me like that company wants to find a way into road racing from Supermoto & Moto-x and are happy to use DD as the Guinea Pigs.
For about £400 to £600 tyre bill a year I'm more than happy to go with tried and tested Pirellis especially if it means we don't have to worry about Wets and warmers (both of which I have by the way, so the added cost to me would be minimal)

I recenlty had a search for Maxxis tyres on bikes at the TT and came up blank with the majority of riders who are literally risking their necks favouring Pirelli/Dunlop/Michelin that in itself speaks volumes to me and is probably due to the developement tha has gone into those tyres from years of road racing at the highest levels.
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[nogaromill998]

Yes Kev, they do have to run Pirellis in BSB, and would like to have a gentle intro to road racing. They are suitable in wet or dry, WITHOUT warmers, and thats how the testing is being carried out, under the same conditions we have in DD. Guy Martin has tested the Superbike tyres and shed VERY favourable opinion on them, and so far, testing on a DD bike has gone very well. A second pair is being tested on a Class A bike by someone who finished very high up in Class B last year. Neither of us has anything personal to gain but I believe the series and its participants does. Should the testing be completed satisfactorily, then Maxxis will put together a proposal to supply tyres, to the RC, or to the DD riders themselves I guess.

[gordonparker]

I had a discussion with their marketing/race guy at Brands April last year gave him a my Club card with e mail, phone details etc

Never heard from him since !!!!

[nogaromill998]

You and I discussed it at Mallory Gordon, and it was agreed I would approach them, which I did, then you were going to take the results of that to the RC, and you then informed me that a decision had been taken to stick with Pirelli. We will have much more detail soon, and then it can be reconsidered, based on the fact that the deal will be much better for the riders due to the reduced costs they will face, and after all, keeping costs down is the whole ethos behind the series, we are always being told........it will certainly even out the riders as many can only afford to run on other peoples cast off scrubs, but will be able to afford new tyres.