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[nogaromill998]

Maybe so Gordon, but you know as well as I do, through our discussions last year, that there is a tyre manufacturer ready to supply the required letters of suitability, the required tyres which are currently undergoing testing on Class A and B bikes, a VERY decent price, trophies and prizes, and yet the MT made a decision to not even bother to talk to them last year, and I dont even understand that....its for the good of the series, they are a company that already sponsors the British MX Championships, already sponsors a BSB team, and WANTS to help DD, and yet such a decision was taken. beggars belief in my humble opinion.

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by nogaromill998

already sponsors a BSB team, .

But surely the BSB team run Pirellis

I may be wrong but it does sound to me like that company wants to find a way into road racing from Supermoto & Moto-x and are happy to use DD as the Guinea Pigs.
For about £400 to £600 tyre bill a year I'm more than happy to go with tried and tested Pirellis especially if it means we don't have to worry about Wets and warmers (both of which I have by the way, so the added cost to me would be minimal)

I recenlty had a search for Maxxis tyres on bikes at the TT and came up blank with the majority of riders who are literally risking their necks favouring Pirelli/Dunlop/Michelin that in itself speaks volumes to me and is probably due to the developement tha has gone into those tyres from years of road racing at the highest levels.
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[nogaromill998]

Yes Kev, they do have to run Pirellis in BSB, and would like to have a gentle intro to road racing. They are suitable in wet or dry, WITHOUT warmers, and thats how the testing is being carried out, under the same conditions we have in DD. Guy Martin has tested the Superbike tyres and shed VERY favourable opinion on them, and so far, testing on a DD bike has gone very well. A second pair is being tested on a Class A bike by someone who finished very high up in Class B last year. Neither of us has anything personal to gain but I believe the series and its participants does. Should the testing be completed satisfactorily, then Maxxis will put together a proposal to supply tyres, to the RC, or to the DD riders themselves I guess.

[gordonparker]

I had a discussion with their marketing/race guy at Brands April last year gave him a my Club card with e mail, phone details etc

Never heard from him since !!!!

[nogaromill998]

You and I discussed it at Mallory Gordon, and it was agreed I would approach them, which I did, then you were going to take the results of that to the RC, and you then informed me that a decision had been taken to stick with Pirelli. We will have much more detail soon, and then it can be reconsidered, based on the fact that the deal will be much better for the riders due to the reduced costs they will face, and after all, keeping costs down is the whole ethos behind the series, we are always being told........it will certainly even out the riders as many can only afford to run on other peoples cast off scrubs, but will be able to afford new tyres.

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by nogaromill998

it will certainly even out the riders as many can only afford to run on other peoples cast off scrubs, but will be able to afford new tyres.

So what are the results/facts

How much cheaper will they be than the Diablos
Would we use just one type of tyre or would we also need wets
Will they offer more or less grip
Will they wear better or worse
What paddock support would there be

These are the questions I would want answers to

[nogaromill998]

So do we all Kev. Firstly, tests are ongoing. when the full results are available they will be available. So far all looks promising. We are told NO WARMERS are necessary, and none have been/will be used in the tests, we are told they are suitable in wet or dry, warm quickly, and wear well too. So far, I have on one set of tyres, done more mileage than we would do in a season in practice and races, and the tyres have plenty left in them. Results on Class A bike are awaited, as are wet results. All I can say is that thus far the tests look promising, and I was VERY happy with the levels of grip available. Then its down to Maxxis to put their proposal forward to the appropriate people. Several other DD runners were present at the Mallory tests and seemed to be happy with how the tyres looked after being used......

Originally Posted by skidlids

So what are the results/facts

How much cheaper will they be than the Diablos
Would we use just one type of tyre or would we also need wets
Will they offer more or less grip
Will they wear better or worse

These are the questions I would want answers to

[gordonparker]

Originally Posted by nogaromill998

You and I discussed it at Mallory Gordon, and it was agreed I would approach them, which I did, then you were going to take the results of that to the RC, and you then informed me that a decision had been taken to stick with Pirelli.

We discussed this at Silverstone BSB meeting and yes we agreed you would make contact and in turn they would contact me as a member of the RC, as stated earlier no contact has been made by Maxxis since the discusssion I had with them last April.
I tried to do some reasearch on the M6029's re performance, testimonials etc but there does not seem to be alot available.

The likes of Dunlop,Michelin,Pirelli,Continental etc have invested millions in race and road tyre development over the years which is now incorporated in their standard range.

I have found set's of Supermaxx in the price range of £180 down to £130 retail, would any savings over the season make a great difference ?
They are still an unknown quantity.