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[Paul James]

Originally Posted by nogaromill998

Paul, before you quote inaccurately, perhaps you'd be better off asking that member directly what he ACTUALLY said...which was that the prize would be offered to ANYONE in DD, but it would be a discretionary prize aimed solely at real beginners in the sport...and since the majority of those these days seem to come via Ducatisti, it is likely that it would be a Ducatisti member that would gain that prize. But as you are well aware, all DD riders are DSC members, so no discrimination is being applied..whoever wins it will be a DSC member.

I wasn't quoting anybody if you read my post, merely questioning something that I'd heard that sounded odd.

I'm sure the RC will sort it all out with whoever is putting the prizes forward so that all the riders can be properly informed.

You do seem frightfully keen on the capitals in your posts, are you a shouty type by nature?

[nogaromill998]

Not at all Paul, they are capital letters, not shouting...capital letters may be used to place emphasis on a word, to help avoid a passage being misinterpreted, but its got nothing to do with shouting.

[Paul James]

Originally Posted by Imola Duke

Last year we did ask via email if it would be ok to give a few cups to riders on the other channel and we got the nod only if we kept it away from the paddock which we did
I still didn't win one
I did win a packet of choc hobnobs for rider of the round at mallory though

I can't really see why anybody would want to do that, surely its a DSC series, all riders are DSC members irrespective of what other clubs they belong to so wouldn't it be more in the spirit to be more inclusive of all the riders?

Not really an issue just a question.

[Paul James]

Originally Posted by nogaromill998

Not at all Paul, they are capital letters, not shouting...capital letters may be used to place emphasis on a word, to help avoid a passage being misinterpreted, but its got nothing to do with shouting.

I think you will find it is considered as shouting in forum useage but if you feel the need to "emphasise" that is of course your prerogative.

[Imola Duke]

Originally Posted by Paul James

I can't really see why anybody would want to do that, surely its a DSC series, all riders are DSC members irrespective of what other clubs they belong to so wouldn't it be more in the spirit to be more inclusive of all the riders?

Not really an issue just a question.

They had the chance to..... the post was on Ducatisti back in Jan 08.
open to all who use the forum.

It was just a bit of fun

[Paul James]

Originally Posted by Imola Duke

They had the chance to..... the post was on Ducatisti back in Jan 08.
open to all who use the forum.

It was just a bit of fun

Fun, FUN, FUN???!!!! Stone the heretic!!!

[Chris Wood]

Originally Posted by Murray Mint

Mate did that bang on your head at Snetterton give you some kind of lasting amnesia, wasn't it you that had a massive off at Coram? or maybe I've got amnesia

Well yes, an off at said corner did occur, not a tyre problem just a depth perception spacial one! Two bikes one apex does not work, do they teach that at CSS?

The other was at CCombe, others tried to hit me but I rolled away to quick.

Apologies to Eric, Glyn, Phil, Otei, once again. Good value for the fans though! LOL

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by tomtom

The new H rated rosso's avaliable yet?

Back to the initial question

The answer is NO and it looks like they will not be available this season
As the H rated Diablos now seem to be restocked there should be enough to go around.

As such I'm in the market for a nice new set of H rated Diablos

Maybe with the current economic climate Pirelli have put off tooling up for producing them, prefering to save the money on tooling costs for now safe in the knowledge that they already have a good tyre on the market that sells well.

Maybe we will be repeating this thread in early 2010

[JasonBoswell]

Blinkin eck! The pre-season love in...

Please enjoy yourselves, you lot. It's meant to be fun.

[ChrisBushell]

Originally Posted by mjbayley

Taken directly from Pirelli Web Site today 13th March 2009 for Ducati 600 SS

DIABLO
Front
120/60 ZR 17 M/C (55W) TL DIABLO Front - 2.2 BAR

DIABLO
Rear
160/60 ZR 17 M/C (69W) TL DIABLO - 2.5 BAR

Now as I have worked in automotive engineering for over 25 years.
I know that:
H rating on tyres is for max speed (sustained) of 125mph
ZR rating on tyres is for max speed of (sustained) of 181mph

I also know from calculation and where the rev limiter cut in that at Assen, Senetterton, and Donington, AntonyE was puling over 132 mph !

So I ask, why do DD go with H rating not ZR as stated and recommended on the Pirelli web site????

I know it's (prolly) the 'sustained' thing, but I think I know what I would rather be using (the old '1.5' times safety factor), and where does the club stand 'IF' there was ever litigation due to tyre failure ?????????????????

Mark

mark

This ie easily answered, as these points were put to Pirelli back in 2004.

It is primarily to do with the weight and power of the bikes, rather than top speed. The weight and performance of a 500 will not put as much heat into a ZR rated tyre in that important 1st couple of laps as they will into an HR.

The ZR is for 100bhp and and say 190KGs and that weight and power would warm them up.

Chris