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View Poll Results: Which make of tyre would you choose to race on
Pirelli 25 64.10%
Metzeller 2 5.13%
Bridgestone 5 12.82%
Michelin 5 12.82%
Dunlop 0 0%
Avon 0 0%
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Old 24-Apr-2009, 21:46
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Isn't advocating the benefits of two warm up laps yet suggesting tyre warmers are of no benefit a contradiction! ?
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Old 24-Apr-2009, 21:52
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my suggestion was based on the psychological element. The tyres do warm up quickly but it takes a while to feel confident that this is the case so that extra warm up lap just gives that extra feeling of confidence ... and it's cheaper than tyre warmers
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Old 24-Apr-2009, 22:36
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my suggestion was based on the psychological element. The tyres do warm up quickly but it takes a while to feel confident that this is the case so that extra warm up lap just gives that extra feeling of confidence ... and it's cheaper than tyre warmers

Hi Claire, how ya doing.

Its past your bedtime now....go on....go on...
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Old 24-Apr-2009, 22:44
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But when its 10am in the morning on the Isle of Man and your bike is lined up on Glencrutchery Road, the rider is just about to take off down Bray Hill on New Tyres at full blat, no tyre warmers, no warm up lap just a 150 mile, 1hr 20min 4 lap race ahead of him then it was the Pirellis he trusted his life to as did the majority of other riders.


According to a TT Marshall i just got off the phone to they use tyre
warmers
They are removed just before the off
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Old 24-Apr-2009, 23:11
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But when its 10am in the morning on the Isle of Man and your bike is lined up on Glencrutchery Road, the rider is just about to take off down Bray Hill on New Tyres at full blat, no tyre warmers, no warm up lap just a 150 mile, 1hr 20min 4 lap race ahead of him then it was the Pirellis he trusted his life to as did the majority of other riders.


According to a TT Marshall i just got off the phone to they use tyre
warmers
They are removed just before the off

Kev has run a bike or 2 at the TT........
Do a search on Adrian Crossan, I think it was he who rode Kevs bikes there, Quick lad too he is, VERY QUICK.
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Old 25-Apr-2009, 00:21
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Yes the bigger teams hae used tyre warmers over the last few years as they have the Gennys and the armoured hook up cables to reach across the parc ferme, Norml cables as seen in most paddocks aren't allowed,
When the race is called and the bikes released from Parc Ferme to line up on Glencruthey road its a big advantage if you have an early start number if you have been using warmers,
In 2002 when Adrian was riding Senna3's 1999 Fireblade fitted with the Ohlins bits off my Blade he started 89th in the Proddy 1000 dispite ending very quallifying session somewhere between 10th and 21st. With bikes going off at 10 sec intervals he sat there for just under 15 minutes waiting for his turn so warmers would have been of little use. With something like 70 slower riders starting ahead of him he had a lot of work to do and passing riders on the first lap with unscrubbed cold tyres was a necessity. That yar he finished 29th with only DJ passing him on the road.
Next year again using Pirellis, no warmers and my bikes he had 25th in Proddy 1000, 21st in the Junior and 24th in the Proddy 600 whch should have been a lot better if the race had run full distance after our early pitstop.
2004 this time on my ZXR400 again on Pirellis with no warmers, first practice was 2nd fastest in the Lightweight class, lapped at 108mph during the race but sadly crashed out of 7th on the final lap well within Silver replica time of McGuiness and the crash had nowt to do with the tyres, but totaled my £4k bike, now thats when racing becomes exspensive.

To right we are happy with Pirelli tyres, even on Dragon Evo Corsas at the Manx GP he was lapping at 115mph on his CBR600 Steelie, which is why we would always pay a bit more for Pirellis even though there were cheaper options available

A few pics as you an see even in the two pics from 2004 not everyone used warmers sadly the racer in the background of the Voxan pic is no longer with us because no make of tyre grips on a Diesel covered road

As to what tyres has Guy Martin been using on the roads, i'll let you work it out for yourselves

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No-one is disputing that Pirelli's are good tyres but as usual, for this subject, the posts degenerate into Yah Boo! posturing.

It turns the whole tyre debate into a joke, (perhaps that is a deliberate ploy by some), and the whole point is lost.

The fact that the topic keeps returning, indicates there is a problem, be it supply, price, rating, or otherwise.

Personally I got a trade deal for my tyres but others have paid thro' the nose.

This whole topic needs to be addressed from the top....there are alternatives now and they should be looked at in readiness for the 2010 season.


PS.

Kevin it is now general practice with 75% of the grid to have tyre warmers replaced on Glencrutchy road with "briefcase" gene's. TT and Manx GP

With many generators freely available for under £100 and tyre warmers even less.....A set of Pirelli Diablos (retail) now cost MORE

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Hi Claire, how ya doing.

Its past your bedtime now....go on....go on...

I am great, how's you? will you be at Anglesey for some fun?
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I am great, how's you? will you be at Anglesey for some fun?

Nice offer but I've only got room in my van for the Desmo.
Gonna have to be a late entry if at all. Maybe ok for the next one.

Got an offer for a 'paid for go' at the Manx so earning browny points at the mo'
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