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[skidlids]

As Sam was up the creek without a paddle on Sunday and as Nog had offered to lend Sam his bike and asked if I would consider letting Sam use the Maxxis tyres already fitted to it.
After discussing it with several Class B riders and Trudi the Class B rep we thought it would give us an oppotunity to have an independent view of these tyres by someone that is genuinely already pushing Diablos close to the limit.

As such IT WAS A ONE OFF CONCESSION and as I spent a lot of race 1 on Sunday swapping places with Sam I had a close up look at there performance.

Normally I don't get to see which way Sam went but on Sunday I did, was this because of the slight improvements made to my bike or Sam's lack of track knowledge, or was it the unfamiliar bike or was it the tyres, who knows for sure.
As mentioned it wasn't a definitive test but I think of it as an unbiased test and have had several discussions with Sam about the tyres.

From Sam's feedback they sound as they make a 583 feel the same as it does when its on Pirelli Super Corsas which I have used on my 583 a couple of years ago in Mini Twins where I found I could lap Pembrey in the 1m 10s bracket, but you wouldn't catch me using them for a wet race and its rarely that I sell them on after I have finished with them,

As for tyre price/life I have sold used scrubs on to mates before for £40 a pair usually 3 or 4 meetings old and my mate Adrian fitted one of those sets to his CBR600 and rode down through France to Italy and back covering a couple of thousand miles and still got lots of use of them after that, I know Dave (Monstermob998) has also done several thousands of road miles on used scrubs.
So effectively my current set of Diablos cost me less than £100 and future sets are likely to cost me £120 a cost I find very reasonable having previously spent far more than that when racing in other series.

When the tyres that were used are discribed as having had a seasons use I'm unclear on what that means, was it a race season, if so on what bike and in which series and at what sort of pace.

It is both easy to make a case for change or for sticking with what is known but there is One big outstanding question, what would they be like in the wet, many of us already know how a Diablo behaves in the wet and that wet racing can vary from track to track.

Maybe the allcomers races offer a oppotunity to try different tyres as the grids are made up of differnt classes using different tyres and the trophies go to the top 3 finishers, no trophies for first in class etc. There is no way a 64bhp (or 59 in my case) Class A bike on Diablos is going to match a 75bhp F400 bike on Super Corsa Pros if its dry or what ever wets they use when it rains. Something I will need to check out with New Era.

[Imola Duke]

Interesting stuff

Maybe Andy Shep could try them out on his 620 for some usefull
feedback.
Looking forward to the Wet test report..........

[nogaromill998]

Well if Andy is prepared to have a go in a non championship race and no one objects, I have a brand new pair that I am willing to hand over for such a test....and no, neither Sam nor I have any affiliation to Maxxis in any way shape or form, other than trying to save DD riders a fair wedge over a season....

[Robinashman]

I'd like to thank both Nog and Sam for their proactive approach to this sensitive subject. Non-championship races are a good opportunity to advance our series in this way. Cheers fellers and will be seeing you at Mallory, hopefully I’ll make the championship races this round

[Fastfasulli]

No offence to Andy Sheppard or Sam West but I noticed that Ian Cobby is still around the paddock with Harriet. If there was any testing to be done why not let him do it - his speed, wealth of previous experience as well as last year's championship should make him the ideal candidate.

On the subject of Ian Cobby and Diablos; I believe Ian's best time around Snetterton was 1:19 ish last year and the best time this year from front running Class A is around 1:22 ish I realise that there may be other factors involved but does this suggest that the tyres have at least another 3 seconds in them with the right rider on board?

[faith-healer]

Originally Posted by Fastfasulli

On the subject of Ian Cobby and Diablos; I believe Ian's best time around Snetterton was 1:19 ish last year and the best time this year from front running Class A is around 1:22 ish I realise that there may be other factors involved but does this suggest that the tyres have at least another 3 seconds in them with the right rider on board?

The fact that Ian is a track day instructor at Snetterton, literally knows the circuit like the back of his hand, and could probably do low 1.20's two up whilst eating a sandwich would have no bearing

[Fastfasulli]

Originally Posted by faith-healer

The fact that Ian is a track day instructor at Snetterton, literally knows the circuit like the back of his hand, and could probably do low 1.20's two up whilst eating a sandwich would have no bearing

LOL - good point but it confirms even more that he's the man for the job - especially round Snetterton :-)