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[skidlids]

Originally Posted by skidlids

Its the harness I need the luck for

How right I was
Spent all day finishing off the harness and fitting it to the bike, by lunch time I had it all in place and flicking the Ignition Toggle switch resulted in the clocks going through the usual checks and then the immobiliser light going out.
But after that it was all down hill, I just couldn't get the Starter Solinoid to pull in. The bike was in neutral with the Green neutral light on, the wire fron pin 38 of the body connector on the ECU that normally goes to the sidestand was connected to Earth to over ride the interlock. The operation of the RH switch gear was checked and checked out as it should.

I have previously checked the ECU/Clocks/Transponder key on my S2R and they worked fine, the bike ran all be it a bit rough (no suprise there)

The Harness came from a breakers with damage to a dozen wires or so including 3 or 4 going to the clocks, but I replaced these and fitted a new connector to the Air temp/MAP sensor.
And the Clocks/ECU set up came from the states and maybe from a later model.
So currently the Bike powers up, fuel pump primes but nothing happens when the start button is pushed.

I maybe looking for a broken wire within the loom or a compatability issue between a later ECU and a early harness, although the only difference I can make out is the later bikes using a clutch switch that goes to pin 33 on the ECU body connector to allow you to start the bike when its in gear when pulling the clutch in. I know my S2R needs its lights on to run but I've tried this by putting 12V on to pin 2 of the clocks connector but it hasn't sorted the starting problems although the clocks do light upnicely.

Will see if I can get any futher with it tomorrow, may even fit the setup back on to the S2R just to check all the units are still working.

[skidlids]

Just put the ECU, Dash and Ignition Key on my 2006 S2R 800 and that started up OK. so it looks like there is an issue with the harness.

Anybody got a wiring diagram for a 2002 M620Sie that they could post up or point me in the direction of as I only have a wiring diagram for the 2005 model.
There may be another differnce in the two that i'm not aware of

[Ghost]

Kev, you could just as easily bypass the ecu and wire the starter circuit conventionally.

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by Ghost

Kev, you could just as easily bypass the ecu and wire the starter circuit conventionally.

I've had to do just that as there is no neutral switch wire going to the ECU, not used in this way on the early models, neither is the clutch switch. So as far as the ECU is concerned the bike is in gear with the clutch out so not allowing me to start it.

So I now have it running so will look at fitting the PC3 USB next, but not today

[skidlids]

With the 620 now running and still having a few hours to spare today I decided to do a bit to the Class B bike and then take a few pics of which this is one.

Even had time to pop out on the S2R, missed Kev, Trudi, Dave & Brenda at H-cafe but caught up with Nev748 over there, good to see he's looking after my old 748

[Rattler]

I reckon you could build a DD bike in your sleep!!! - just how many have you built???

[Chaz]

Originally Posted by skidlids

Just put the ECU, Dash and Ignition Key on my 2006 S2R 800 and that started up OK. so it looks like there is an issue with the harness.

Anybody got a wiring diagram for a 2002 M620Sie that they could post up or point me in the direction of as I only have a wiring diagram for the 2005 model.
There may be another differnce in the two that i'm not aware of

They are different found that out with Rattlers dd bike when he sent his loom to Track Electrics, the Haynes Manuel I have has 3 or 4 different looms which look pretty much the same until you look at the ecu connections.

[paynep]

Originally Posted by skidlids

Just put the ECU, Dash and Ignition Key on my 2006 S2R 800 and that started up OK. so it looks like there is an issue with the harness.

Anybody got a wiring diagram for a 2002 M620Sie that they could post up or point me in the direction of as I only have a wiring diagram for the 2005 model.
There may be another differnce in the two that i'm not aware of

Kev,

I've got a workshop manual with wiring diagrams for a 2002 model if you still need info?

Paul

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by paynep

Kev,

I've got a workshop manual with wiring diagrams for a 2002 model if you still need info?

Paul

Thanks for the offer Paul, hopefully I'm sorted now that the bike is running, still not sure if I need to have the 12 volt feed for the lights going to the clocks like I need to with my 2006 model S2R, but thats easy to sort, may just fit it in there anyway and have a ullet connector in line so I can try it plug'd in and unplug'd .

Originally Posted by Rattler

I reckon you could build a DD bike in your sleep!!! - just how many have you built???

Only Class B ones Tim, Class A ones I seem to have a problem with, well my own anyway, we will have to see how converting Dallas's bike to a Class A bike works out, but he along with Andy Sheppard were happy enough with the Class B bikes they had off me and I was happy with my original one.
Just need to get my Mate Adrian interested in racing one, I'm sure his ACU Licence musst have dropped back to a Novice one by now

[skidlids]

At last weekends tyre test the bike was certainly running ok on the reworked harness connected to the proper 620 clocks and ECU, well apart from the rear cambelt jumping a tooth. All seemed OK after resetting it, but a Valve clearance check and leakdown test will see if the valves are seating OK.

Just finished fitting the 2 into 1 conversion and just need to mark it up to have some spring mounting loops welded on to hold it all in place.

I'll post some better pics when its all finished