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[badgerpilot]

Don't give a toss how qually and grid position are decided as long as I have a laugh.

Hottrax will be great till you've paid up then wont give a flying feck, and if bad fortune strikes, getting a refund will be hilarious.

[Jolley]

Originally Posted by baconmaker72

Don't give a toss how qually and grid position are decided as long as I have a laugh.

Hottrax will be great till you've paid up then wont give a flying feck, and if bad fortune strikes, getting a refund will be hilarious.

The point is that I (the minority) wouldn't be having quite so much of a laugh if I was starting at the back due to a mistake in a qualifying race.

No refunds are available at all... Stated clearly on their website. If that is what they have to do to stay in business, then that is what they have to do. Not a big deal anyway, because their discounts for paying up front are less than 1 race entry... So just pay a race at a time and you would never be more that 1 race entry out of pocket if the worst were to happen.

[Sorted]

[quote=Jolley]The point is that I (the minority) wouldn't be having quite so much of a laugh if I was starting at the back due to a mistake in a qualifying race.

Too serious Ron!
I know we all want to do well and obviously it is competitive but surely the main objective is to have fun with like minded riders/racers.. A bit like a quick TD with some mates and try to beat them... Not WSBK.
Even I had to take stock of how my mind was starting to focus almost entirely on winning or finishing high up etc.

However, I agree with you on the qualifying and think if it has to be during the Non points scoring race which some peeps may not want to do (I and many others didn't do all the Saturday races last year). Then it should be on the fastest lap of that race and not on the race result.

[Bionicle]

Originally Posted by Sorted

However, I agree with you on the qualifying and think if it has to be during the Non points scoring race which some peeps may not want to do (I and many others didn't do all the Saturday races last year). Then it should be on the fastest lap of that race and not on the race result.

Yep +1 on this it should be fastest lap

[Gbyte666]

Originally Posted by Bionicle

Yep +1 on this it should be fastest lap

Likewise

Craig

[Jolley]

Originally Posted by Sorted

Too serious Ron!
I know we all want to do well and obviously it is competitive but surely the main objective is to have fun with like minded riders/racers.. A bit like a quick TD with some mates and try to beat them... Not WSBK.
Even I had to take stock of how my mind was starting to focus almost entirely on winning or finishing high up etc.

However, I agree with you on the qualifying and think if it has to be during the Non points scoring race which some peeps may not want to do (I and many others didn't do all the Saturday races last year). Then it should be on the fastest lap of that race and not on the race result.

At the end of the day, I'm there to do as well as I can. I did that last year, and next year will be the same. I have fun out there, and my non-finishes at Mallory and Pembrey didn't cause me to spit any dummies... Im pretty laid back, and realize it isn't the end of the world. However, if someone else caused me to qualify at the back due to a silly mistake that resulted in a coming together, then I know I'd be more than a bit annoyed... And I don't think there are many people that wouldn't. We are all competetive or we would not be racing, and if it knocks me from 3rd to last or 10th to last makes no difference. Im honest enough to know right now that if it happened it would annoy me. However, that same incident would be laughed off as just one of those things if the consequences were not quite so disasterous. Why introduce a rule that could potentially lead to bad feeling? This puts more consequence on a silly mistake, so the rule would be making things more serious than a normal laid back Fastest Lap style Qualifying.

By the way, I'll happily go with whatever is decided. I just thought it was worth thinking about the potential fall out of the rule and ironing out the problems now.

So, I vote for a qually race, using your fastest lap.

[dunlop0_1]

Originally Posted by Jolley

At the end of the day, I'm there to do as well as I can. I did that last year, and next year will be the same. I have fun out there, and my non-finishes at Mallory and Pembrey didn't cause me to spit any dummies... Im pretty laid back, and realize it isn't the end of the world. However, if someone else caused me to qualify at the back due to a silly mistake that resulted in a coming together, then I know I'd be more than a bit annoyed... And I don't think there are many people that wouldn't. We are all competetive or we would not be racing, and if it knocks me from 3rd to last or 10th to last makes no difference. Im honest enough to know right now that if it happened it would annoy me. However, that same incident would be laughed off as just one of those things if the consequences were not quite so disasterous. Why introduce a rule that could potentially lead to bad feeling? This puts more consequence on a silly mistake, so the rule would be making things more serious than a normal laid back Fastest Lap style Qualifying.




By the way, I'll happily go with whatever is decided. I just thought it was worth thinking about the potential fall out of the rule and ironing out the problems now.

So, I vote for a qually race, using your fastest lap.

Count me in on that Ron.

[badgerpilot]

Suppose I tend to lean towards Ron's idea of fastest lap during the race used to give grid positions.

It would never be a 'nothing' race anyway as I don't recall anyone saying 'after you' in any of last year's Allcomers tussles!

[Jolley]

Originally Posted by baconmaker72

It would never be a 'nothing' race anyway as I don't recall anyone saying 'after you' in any of last year's Allcomers tussles!

Exactly... You will want to get past people so you can pull away and set a faster time.

[FoxCorp]

After my grass tracking at Cadwell last year - I'm only going to be paying for a race at a time just in case the same happens again!