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Old 06-May-2011, 23:25   #1
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Please keep it the same as im currently looking at buying a class b bike to race next year, or even end of this season
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Old 06-May-2011, 23:33   #2
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Please keep it the same as im currently looking at buying a class b bike to race next year, or even end of this season


go for it Spence time for Snetterton yet...

cant imagine B will change as its 2/3rds at least of the grid
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Old 07-May-2011, 07:20   #3
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Quite frankly the idea of setting up a 4 valve series for Class C has been looked into a few times and whilst say a 748 can be bought for maybe £2K, it is the cost of prep and maintenance that is the killer. I think the last of these bikes is now at least 7 years old and not necessarily relevant to Ducati from a racing point of view.

There is the problem of setting up a set of rules to stop cheating - there are two many performance enhancing parts about - so you would end up having to dyno everyone at every race meeting.

Basically thats why we set up the 848 Cup!

Now the 696 would make a very good basis for a new part of the series - how much can you pick one up for now?

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Old 07-May-2011, 10:12   #4
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Now the 696 would make a very good basis for a new part of the series - how much can you pick one up for now?

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A quick look on Biketrader throws up a few 2008 bikes for over £4.5k... So I'm sure you can pick them up for £4k.

The reason I won't go to A is because I don't see it as a big enough step from B. The bikes are not much newer and the power isn't a lot more (sure, they are better than B, but just not enough for my liking. I mentioned at the end of last year that I would almost definitely move to A (or whatever it was called) if we could go with a newer model.

As for forcing people out of B, maybe limit to 2-3 years for anyone finishing in the top 3-5 places. Time related for everyone wouldnt work because if someone isn't comfortable/fast in B, why would they want to move up?
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Old 07-May-2011, 11:38   #5
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If you have power to weight rules a 696 could well be the bike of choice for the more affluent but would leave other options for the techys amongst us & not make the present bikes obsolete
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Old 07-May-2011, 11:54   #6
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A quick look on Biketrader throws up a few 2008 bikes for over £4.5k... So I'm sure you can pick them up for £4k.

The reason I won't go to A is because I don't see it as a big enough step from B. The bikes are not much newer and the power isn't a lot more (sure, they are better than B, but just not enough for my liking. I mentioned at the end of last year that I would almost definitely move to A (or whatever it was called) if we could go with a newer model.

As for forcing people out of B, maybe limit to 2-3 years for anyone finishing in the top 3-5 places. Time related for everyone wouldnt work because if someone isn't comfortable/fast in B, why would they want to move up?

you better keep that 848 then

out of interest, of the novices that came in to DD not having raced before (or hardly) how many have gone on to race elsewhere? I can think of rattler, sam west, dom clegg

if not many do and the rules restrict them in B will they just stop racing?

I like power to weight idea - a nice 800 in mine to keep up with the likes of 6 stone Craig
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Old 07-May-2011, 12:28   #7
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So many good ideas, I dont think people join class B as a step on the racing ladder to greater things. People join DD and particulrly class B as it has a nice friendly feel to the paddock.

I think people are quite happy racing ib B year after year and would only move to class A if that had the same friendly and cheap feel to it. I have considered going to A to help me with my power to weight problem. Lets facing I would guess my bike is having to pull 3 or four stone in weight over most people around me.

696 would be a good idea but at £4K before any modifications it is too much for me. If there were £3K race prepped 696s then that would work.

Power to weight ration that included current A class bikes would allow those bikes to carry on and allow people to modify their B classes to be eligible??

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Old 07-May-2011, 12:51   #8
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£4.5k is for a cherished road bike... I'm sure you could find a scrappy one that had been dropped for half that... Let's face it, it might get dropped again! If this is seriously a possibility, it would be nice to sort it out now so that I can sort out my bike in plenty of time. I don't want a New Year rush job.

Power to weight could get messy if you ask me. I'd rather keep it as a sort of one make thing to keep it simple for the less techy newbies, and to keep checking eligibility as straight forward as possible.
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Old 07-May-2011, 18:20   #9
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Please keep it the same as im currently looking at buying a class b bike to race next year, or even end of this season

Me too!! In the last few weeks I have got a van, a standard SS600 & s/h leathers, and I've got my ACU course on Monday. Now I just need to get the bike sorted, and the rest of my gear and my licence, aiming to race at Pembrey in July (I hope), trouble is I'm skint now.
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Old 07-May-2011, 18:29   #10
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Really no need to worry about Class B. Im 100% sure it will be the same for many years yet. This is more about what can be done for class A (or an additional Class).
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