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Old 09-May-2011, 12:02
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IThose who do class B a couple of years can and want to move up can save up a bit extra and get the later bike but with same entrance fees? The amount peeps spend on powder coating, painting new updated parts at tge end of each season it wouldn't be much more.

but they would want to do that to a 696 too

must admit I am amazed at the lack of 620 race bieks out there. At one time, it almost had a full grid of its own, and I'm sure in the eraly days there were easily as many A as B, or at least very close. Seems the last 3 years it has fallen off pretty sharply, whereby I think Brands had 7.

Anyone have any concreet ideas why? Maybe we all promote B class because its what most of us race and is fuller? Could simply finding some bikes (!) and promoting A be the way forward? Still a good novice class when you compare to even 400s racing
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Old 09-May-2011, 16:08
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This topic of updating DD has been debated so many times my own thread on the matter last year gained over a hundred replies.

I for one would not be prepared to go and spend 5k on a 696 to do exactly the same racing. I really do not think DD needs updating in a way that means you have to spend wads of cash. It is meant to be budget racing so lets keep within those guide lines.

The subject of wets/warmers will always raise it's head as many people I have spoken with who show some intrest in DD are put off by the lack of this choice.

What does it matter if there are 7 or 70 A bikes on the grid?

Can we just get on with racing please.
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Old 09-May-2011, 16:54
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What does it matter if there are 7 or 70 A bikes on the grid?

if we could get 20 then maybe we can have seperate grids again, plus surely its better to be a champion of 20 than 10 riders (not that I'm in that catergory)

agree with the rest though. Changes recently means suspension is now more adjustable, but the challenge isnt really whats is the bike in A class as such, its getting those in B to move and/or new entrants to go straight into A

and less than 3 weeks now big balls
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Old 09-May-2011, 17:15
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but the challenge isnt really whats is the bike in A class as such, its getting those in B to move and/or new entrants to go straight into A


You would have to look back through the years to see how many people went from B to A, and how many came in from other racing.

Class A could do with a few more riders.

Actually does it really matter if there are only 6 riders in A providing they are having a good time and combined we have a healthy grid???

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Old 09-May-2011, 17:24
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I for one would not be prepared to go and spend 5k on a 696 to do exactly the same racing. I really do not think DD needs updating in a way that means you have to spend wads of cash. It is meant to be budget racing so lets keep within those guide lines.
effectively you have been there and done it (just on a 620) and you joined in when numbers were good. Now, interest is dropping off for A.... I certainly would rather stay in B than go to a 620. However, if we went to a 696 (with an extra 30hp rather than 15hp), with a slightly higher profile, I would start looking for a bike now..... One that could also be competitive in mini twins.

Warmers or not I would be there.
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Old 09-May-2011, 18:41
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effectively you have been there and done it (just on a 620) and you joined in when numbers were good. Now, interest is dropping off for A.... I certainly would rather stay in B than go to a 620. However, if we went to a 696 (with an extra 30hp rather than 15hp), with a slightly higher profile, I would start looking for a bike now..... One that could also be competitive in mini twins.

Warmers or not I would be there.

That there man, Mr Ronald Jolley, speak much sense.
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Old 10-May-2011, 22:26
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That there man, Mr Ronald Jolley, speak much sense.

the 620's are already much faster than the 583's, I don't think it could possibly be concidered safe to put them on the same track so they would need their own grid,,, what if there's still only 6 bikes? would that be the end of A's

the difference between a 583 and a 620 is much more than the figures suggest, I've ridden both and there is little comparison.
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Old 10-May-2011, 22:47
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the 620's are already much faster than the 583's, I don't think it could possibly be concidered safe to put them on the same track so they would need their own grid,,, what if there's still only 6 bikes? would that be the end of A's

the difference between a 583 and a 620 is much more than the figures suggest, I've ridden both and there is little comparison.


now I'm a little more confident on track, I'd love to try a fairly sorted one and see how different it really is
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Just aint going to work this 696, there may be a few that can go look for one now but there will be more thats all they will be able to do , look.
Take the 848 thing with New Era and run by DSC I think sort off ?? It died a death at our level. Only when it went to BSB did it attract some numbers and then it also attracted some far faster riders than most of our A group. And yes it would totaly spoil the B race ( which is not broke ) if they were on the same grid or if you look at it another way B would spoil the 696 race half way through
Blimey it expensive enough as it is, lord knows what 848 racing is but I would expect 696 to be not far off as its not just the cost of buying the bike is it.
Personal opinion: Scrap A and just have a clasic bike series ( B ) Full grid cheap racing. If you want to better that, can afford real mans racing its move on and up to another series.

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